I’m reading an AP story about the protestors on wall street that has some humorous excerpts. It seems to be saying they aren’t as loony as they appear because they are more diverse than what they seem. For proof, they interview some people.
66 y/o, retired teacher, Nancy Pi-Sunyer was the first one they addressed. She states, “I was too young for the civil rights movement, and during the Vietnam War, I was too serious a student. Now, I just want to stand up and have my voice be heard.”
Oh boy, being 66y/o, puts her year of birth about 1945. I could list hundreds of examples of the Civil rights movement events that occurred when it seemed to me that she was of age to participate, but let us just recall, 1968 April 4 – Dr. Martin Luther King is shot and killed in Memphis, Tennessee by James Earl Ray. Then she insists that she was too much of a serious student to be involved during the Vietnam War. Really? By 1963, there were 16,000 American military personnel in South Vietnam, up from Eisenhower’s 900 advisors. The Gulf of Tonkin occurred in Aug. 1964. (LBJ—- ‘nough said) U.S. involvement ended 30 April, 1975. That sure is a lot of serious studying not to be introduced as “Doctor”. Obviously, she wasn’t a student of mathematics. Her money quote? “I was oblivious before. I can’t be oblivious now.” Uhmm, ma’am, it’s too late for you. You’ve been an obliviot for your entire life, and you continue to be so.
The next person introduced is Cherie Walters. Perhaps not so coincidentally is also a former teacher. Her biggest gripe: credit card swipe fees, which she said were killing smaller businesses. I guess she thinks the movement of money should be done for free. Swipe cards, swipe machines, ATMs, bank employees…… in her world are gifts and volunteer work. She also stated, “I’m very angry at how poverty is degrading our people.” I’m not sure how poverty is suppose to elevate people, but then, I don’t think ATM’s simply fell out of the sky as a gift from B. Frank, either.
Another mental giant is introduced…… Legal Aid lawyer Steve Wasserman, 63, who joined Wednesday’s march with his union and remembered his Vietnam protesting days, agreed. “The old left was very male-dominated.” he said. In an attempt to show diversity in the movement today. I suppose all of that bra burning that went on then was done by trannies?
But, this is the best quote from the story……..
Karen Livecchia, 49, agreed. “For now, it’s a lot like the Internet — leaderless, spaceless,” she said as she collected signatures at the march, spurred to action by an email from the liberal group MoveOn.org. “It’s hard to tell what it will lead to. But I’m not concerned that we don’t have specific demands — that will come.” Thanks Karen, that tells us all we need to know, you doltish twit. You got marching orders and you followed. You didn’t even stop to think MoveOn.org is financed by the same corporate tools you are protesting.
The saddest part of all of this, is that the banking industry and Wall Street does need reformed. There must be fundamental changes to occur in both. What are the odds that these protesters, without specific demands, will get these two entities to change in the proper manner? I’m putting it at about zero.
You can read more examples of how the intellectual bottom dwellers are cluelessly wandering the Wall street area here.
suyts space 
America Is Just NOT What It Used To Be!
As shown by those occupying Wall Street. Their attitude is the change. America used to be about advancement, profitable businesses, economic growth.
More than anything this looks like a socialist movement to disrupt America, not to strengthen it. The unions promoted run away inflation and Democrats have promoted the need for everyone to feel good about who they are. This protest should wake up people to the clueless ideals that are driving it.
They just want to be heard but they have nothing to say! If they do not like ATM and credit card fees they are free to not use those things. If they do not like the way society is heading they are free to not get involved in society.
I saw what was coming and left the work force to allow a younger person to keep their job. It was corporate greed and the greed of real estate investors that allowed me to retire early. Working 80 hour weeks also helped!
America is never going to be totally strong in my mind because people are still going to be divided. Something that none of these candidates seem to want to fix.
“Wall Street didn’t write those failed policies, Wall Street didn’t spend a trillion dollars. Wall Street isn’t asking to spend another $450 billion. It didn’t work with a trillion. It’s not gonna’ work with $450 billion. You can demonstrate all you want on Wall Street. The problem is 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue!”
–Herman Cain
And he’s right.
Well, it isn’t just 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.
there’s East Capitol Street, NE
and 1st Street, and 1 First Street, NE. as well.
an now they are talking about giving the mortgage companies even more money…
…and the more they hold on to houses, trying to wait until the market improves…
…the more they drive the market down
What are they going to do if the market improves?
Release all those foreclosures, and drive the market back down again……………
probably……the fact is, the houses are still over valued. The market hasn’t bottomed. They just need to let the mortgage companies go broke….. sell their assets and move on. Its the only way out. Else the housing market will be fubar for decades.
I agree with that 100%……
As long as the government is making their payroll….with our money…they have no incentive to do any thing about it
Alot of these people are mad at Obama. I’m tell you, he has lost some support. The younger crowd really wanted to see the troops come up and The Patriot Act to get overturned . I do believe most of these people want these things to be done. But the bottomline is the the special interest groups and lobbyist own this fuckin country. Just like George Carlin said. So you know what, fuck it.
If things continue the way they have for the last 10-12 years, I hope I become as detached from people as George got.
I hope not, Brian. I saw George Carlin shortly before he died. He was a sad and bitter man. I got up and left in the middle of his routine. It was a pale imitation of what I had seen years earlier.
And, yes, many are mad at Obama. He got voted in with promises he never intended to keep. You mentioned a couple of things I was hopeful that he’d do. I wanted the troops home. After killing OBL, I thought it a perfect opportunity to claim victory and send the boys home. That was, after all, the reason given for going there in the first place. And, I was hopeful for a much narrower interpretation of the Patriot Act. Instead, it got broader. Obviously, there were other promises he made that I’m glad he didn’t keep…..
The reason why the lobbyists and special interests own anything is because “we the people” allow it to happen. Voting a politician from Chicago into office should have been a clue to most that nothing would change in that regard. The problem with Obama is that not only is he morally corrupt, he’s also out of his depth.
“I hope not, Brian. I saw George Carlin shortly before he died. He was a sad and bitter man. I got up and left in the middle of his routine. It was a pale imitation of what I had seen years earlier.”
I find his 70 and most of his 80’s stuff to be lame myself. I liked his last show, but the one before that…. Life is Worth Losing is inconsistent… But I like the bits about how people have let technology overcome their lives.and the bit about how special interest own us because they pretty much do. The last 30 minutes was pretty bad though. Always loved it when he ripped golf because I hate that damn game. =)
“And, yes, many are mad at Obama. He got voted in with promises he never intended to keep. You mentioned a couple of things I was hopeful that he’d do. I wanted the troops home. After killing OBL, I thought it a perfect opportunity to claim victory and send the boys home. That was, after all, the reason given for going there in the first place. And, I was hopeful for a much narrower interpretation of the Patriot Act. Instead, it got broader. Obviously, there were other promises he made that I’m glad he didn’t keep…..”
There is no way he is going to have as many voters. I think his voters are more cynical about politics than they were in 2008 and some of them will stay home. The last 10 years is really good to wear on the younger generation for a long time I think. It was a flat out miserable decade.
“The reason why the lobbyists and special interests own anything is because “we the people” allow it to happen. Voting a politician from Chicago into office should have been a clue to most that nothing would change in that regard. The problem with Obama is that not only is he morally corrupt, he’s also out of his depth.”
Politicians on both sides are bought off. Anyone that isn’t a party loyalist accepts that i think. Carlin has it right. I think was a smarter man than most people in politics today. These politicians get on their knee’s for people like George Soros and The Koch Brothers. And I’m tired of hearing “Well, they’re worse than we are” and “They started it” which is what people have resorted to over the last 10-12 years especially.
As for Cain… Cain has taken a “my way or the highway” approach and that’s not what democracy is all about. That’s a dictatorship. That’s not to say that a take the bull by the horns way of thinking is totally wrong. But it is wrong of Cain to call people anti-american because they don’t agree with him. That’s NOT leadership, and for a man his age to act this way tells me he is not ready to lead this country either. Cain is a divider just like many of the rest of them.
He should show more maturity and get off his high horse a bit. He sounds like a preacher that preaches against any religion that isn’t his own. No matter if he likes it or not, these protests is democracy. Not to say there aren’t troublemakers down there. When you get all these people together you will get troublemakers. There is no doubt
about that. That said, I’m not totally comfortable with how he seems to be defending the rich elite. But of course he did work for The Federal Reserve. There is a reason Andrew Jackson hated big banks.
Andrew Jackson- “The bold effort the present (central) bank had made to control the government … are but premonitions of the fate that await the American people should they be deluded into a perpetuation of this institution or the establishment of another like it.”
And here Cain is defending banks.
Brian, there is a difference between banks, and the Central Bank. We need banks as much as we need a common currency. A central bank, not so much. Certainly not in the way it is operating today.
It has been stated that Ben Franklin said, “Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what’s for lunch.”
As far as Cain goes, it is, that much of America needs to hear what he has to say. Yes, he’s preaching. But, most of it is true. And, the fact of the matter is, as bad as things are today. Things are pretty good for us.
Principles are worth fighting and dieing for……. the fact that I can’t afford another I-pod ….isn’t.
Does all of this make Cain presidential material? No, but it doesn’t disqualify him either.
Brian, thanks for coming by again…….. I’ve gotta call it for the night…..talk with you soon,
James
“Brian, there is a difference between banks, and the Central Bank. We need banks as much as we need a common currency. A central bank, not so much. Certainly not in the way it is operating today.”
I think everyone is coming to the agreement that central bank is a problem. I think both The Tea Party and the protesters on Wall Street come to an agreement on that. A lot of the Democrats that I talk to now think Ron Paul is the best guy for the job. Even though they don’t totally agree with him on everything, they agree with his views on The Federal Reserve.
“As far as Cain goes, it is, that much of America needs to hear what he has to say. Yes, he’s preaching. But, most of it is true. And, the fact of the matter is, as bad as things are today. Things are pretty good for us.”
When your not making much of an effort to understand those that are different than you I think that’s a problem when your trying to run a country of millions of people. But it appears he thinks his only job as a President is to serve those that agree with him.
“Principles are worth fighting and dieing for.”
I don’t principles should be more important than human lives.
And to address my age… I’m 30. I love classic rock, some classical music, old movies, I don’t leech off the hand outs even though I do have some health problems. I believe in keeping illegals out…. My favorite TV Shows are Gunsmoke and Sanford and Son. My favorite actors are Paul Newman and Jackie Gleason. I’m against gun control. That puts me in agreement with republicans. There are plenty of old school things about me. That’s the benefits of someone my age has. I’m old enough to look back and see that there are those that came before me that brought us good things, and I’m young enough to understand that everything from the past doesn’t have to be today.
Let me ask you this… If you think a man was trying to destroy your country would you play golf with him like Boehner was doing with Obama?
If I thought that, no, I would not.
Brian, I’ve no idea how old you are. I suspect, a bit younger than me. I don’t say that to demean or degrade, but just as an observation.
What we’ve witnessed in the last decade or so, was inevitable. The fight for the mortal soul of this nation is ongoing. While the dimensions are much more than a dichotomy, it is a dichotomy in essence.
Briefly, here are a few questions put to this nation……….
We are a nation of warriors. We’ve dominated the world as much as we’ve wanted. It is one of the things that has made us great. Should we embrace this or no?
This nation was born on the principles of the Christian religion, be it Puritan, Quaker, Catholic, or Protestant, we were all here. Should we embrace this or no?
This nation is blessed with every natural resource necessary for an economy second to none and can be a closed economy and still be second to none. Should we embrace this or no?
These are only a few questions. But, they are most important……..the most important one, …..American exceptionalism, should we embrace this or no?
“What we’ve witnessed in the last decade or so, was inevitable. The fight for the mortal soul of this nation is ongoing. While the dimensions are much more than a dichotomy, it is a dichotomy in essence.”
I understand that total happiness is never going to happen. Not everyone is going to be happy and there will always be some divide. Only things like 9/11 will truly bring everyone together and that’s only temporary. Still, Cain spends an awful lot of time glorying his way and almost saying to hell with anyone that doesn’t agree with him. That’s the impression I have of the man. And while some people might love that he little experience as a politician, I think it shows. I think he is pig headed and doesn’t care about anyone’s opinion other than his own and people that think just like him.
“This nation was born on the principles of the Christian religion, be it Puritan, Quaker, Catholic, or Protestant, we were all here. Should we embrace this or no?”
Few will doubt that there are christian ideals that are good. What I don’t agree with his own many people carry around or talk up the bible, but then embrace the love of money so much. My idea of a god is someone that wants peace, freedom and decent living for all. My idea of a god is someone that doesn’t want to see others struggle. So many republicans are so afraid of anyone getting anything free. Guys like Cain seem to take this to extreme levels. He is a cutthroat.
“We are a nation of warriors. We’ve dominated the world as much as we’ve wanted. It is one of the things that has made us great. Should we embrace this or no?”
I don’t take pleasure in dominating people. Does this mean that I just want to throw everything into chaos? Of course not. I’ll all for sealing off the boarders. But I’m also for making life easier for the American people. The people that are here legally. Does things like social security backfire at some level? Yes. There will always be people that take advantage of a situation. But I also know plenty of hardworking people that DON’T take advantage of the system. My nephew is in his early 20’s and he works damn hard…. But now he is without a job and 3 kids. In Cain’s mind he is just a lazy bum since he isn’t working now. That’s the extreme mindset that Cain has. Sorry, working at McDonalds doesn’t pay for 3 kids and a house these days.
Brian, you are a perplexing person….
..you say things that make perfect sense, then turn around and say things that don’t
You can’t paint people with such a broad brush………
Herman Cain does. Even if he thinks the protestors are misguided the solution isn’t to stand there on some high horse and call them anti-americans. That’s NOT leadership. That is where his lack of experience shows. He’s running for President of the United States. A person running for such a position shouldn’t be saying things like that.
*Ride a high horse*
lol. Excuse me.
Obama does…..there has never been a more divisive president than Obama
I haven’t heard Cain say anything that can hold a candle to what Obama has said, or even things that the democrats in general have said.
Democrats justify it because they think what they are saying is so right…and who they are saying it to is so wrong….
….well tuff tooties
“My nephew is in his early 20′s and he works damn hard…. But now he is without a job and 3 kids. In Cain’s mind he is just a lazy bum since he isn’t working now. That’s the extreme mindset that Cain has. Sorry, working at McDonalds doesn’t pay for 3 kids and a house these days.”
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That’s the heartbreak of all of this. We’ve got the people that do game the system. They usurp the help we could provide to the people that temporarily need it.
Brian, it isn’t that. It is that many know how detrimental it is to the person receiving the gift. It is also an acknowledgment of the cost and what it does to our ability to care for the needy in the future.
You’ve also touched upon something I was going to write about sometime in the near future. None of the candidates, none of our elected leaders, no one is making a forceful argument about what is necessary to move this nation’s economy forward. I keep waiting for someone to start stating the obvious. Perhaps they’re waiting for a moment of greater impact. But, I wish they’d start stating it now.
“That’s the heartbreak of all of this. We’ve got the people that do game the system. They usurp the help we could provide to the people that temporarily need it.”
My nieces ex used to go around to the local churches and he would use his two daughters to basically collect money to feed bad habits. He would claim that they’re really sick and he didn’t have food/money for them. He would take advantage of other people’s generosity that way. There will always be people that do that. Unless we become so greedy that we basically resort to animal instincts those kind of people will take advantage of the goodness others try to do.
Yes, my mom runs a church food pantry……she has many incorrigible people that she sees on a regular basis. They have a route they run…..one month, this food pantry, the next another, and so on……. when done making the rounds start again….. they don’t spend on groceries so they can do whatever……