Blatent And Horrid Hypocrisy On Display In Seattle

Well, I’ve had this for a couple of days, but, haven’t been feeling well enough to write about.  I can’t remember how I came across this, so I apologize if I miss giving proper acknowledgment.  I see Brietbart has finally got a hold of this, as well. 



SEATTLE, Wa. — A homosexual coffee shop owner refused service to a group of peaceful Christian abolitionists Sunday and evicted them from his shop.

The abolitionists had been actively engaging people in the city for several days, sharing the gospel, holding signs exposing the abortion holocaust, and handing out literature to people of the streets. According to abolitionist Caytie Davis, the group entered Bedlam Coffee to rest and have a drink but did not engage anyone there.

“We had nothing on us, we weren’t distributing anything,” Davis said. “We bought coffee and went upstairs.” Within minutes of their arrival, the barista ran up the stairs and into the back room to alert the owner of their presence.

A moment later, the owner burst in, shouting, “You have to leave.”

“We were all taken aback because we had no idea what he was talking about,” Davis said. The owner then showed them a pamphlet he had found and demanded to know if it belonged to them. The pamphlet featured an image of an aborted child, as well as rainbow colored imagery along with an explanation of what the rainbow means according to scripture; a symbol of God’s longsuffering mercy toward sinners.

“None of us had dropped anything in the store,” Davis said. “But we told him yes, it was one that we had been handing out in the city, and asked where he’d found it. He told us he found it outside.”

When the abolitionists asked why they had to leave, the owner told them, “This offends me.”

Abolitionist Jonathan Sutherland pointed out that the literature had been found on public property, but the owner repeatedly cut him off, saying “Shut up! Shut up!”

“We tried to talk to him and he wanted nothing to do with it,” Davis added.

“So you’re not willing to tolerate our presence?” Sutherland asked.

“Will you tolerate my presence?” the man responded. Sutherland assured him they would. “We’re actually in your coffee shop,” he said.

“Really?” the owner demanded. “If I go get my boyfriend and f*ck him in the a** right here you’re going to tolerate that?”

“That would be your choice,” Sutherland answered. But the owner would not be persuaded. “Are you going to tolerate it?” he asked again. “Answer my f***ing question! No, you’re going to sit right here and f***ing watch it!”

“Well, we don’t want to watch that,” said Caleb Head, another abolitionist.

“Well than I don’t have to f*cking tolerate this!” the man said. “Leave! All of you. Tell all your f*cking friends, don’t f*cking come here.”

The abolitionists agreed to leave, but Davis took the opportunity as they left to share the message of salvation through Jesus Christ. “Just know that Christ can save you from that lifestyle,” she said.

“Yeah, I like a**,” the owner responded. “I’m not going to be saved by anything. I’d f*ck Christ in the a**. Ok? He’s hot.”

As they exited, abolitionist Jes Sutherland commented, “Seattle has proved itself to not be tolerant.”

“Don’t act so f***ing shocked b**ch,” the owner said. “Get the f*ck out.”

“They had good coffee,” Davis said. “It’s just too bad the service sucked.”

The abolitionists say the treatment they received is hypocritical, in light of recent public discrimination cases involving Christian business owners who have had to fight lawsuits over their refusal to provide services to homosexual weddings on the grounds that to do so violates their faith.

Still, they said they do not wish any harm to come to the coffee shop owners and do not want to see them unfairly treated as many Christian business owners have been.

“On the contrary,” Davis said. “My whole thought, even after, was that I hope that they continue to think about the literature, and it convicts them to the point of repentance.”

There is a video of the encouter at the link above.  WARNING!!!!  The language is foul and graphic!

Now, while this does demonstrate a stunning display of hypocrisy, there are differences between the instances of this vs, say, trying to force a baker to bake a cake for an occassion the baker disagrees with.

The bakers were not forcing anyone out of their establishment, nor, were they refusing to serve anyone.  The Christians seen in the video were not forcing or even coercing anyone in the establishment. 

As stated, I’m not feeling well.  So, I’d rather not engage in a back and forth with anyone at this time.  But, it does bring up some interesting questions. 

Would it be better to simply let the markets sort this out?  Or, is this beyond the pale of the market place?

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18 Responses to Blatent And Horrid Hypocrisy On Display In Seattle

  1. To paraphrase Yogi Berra: “Seattle’s too crowded–nobody goes there anymore.” Well, we do–sometimes–go there, that is. Von’s a great bar, we get season tickets to the 5th Avenue and Paramount theaters, and we periodically go to the Coast Guard station to get our booze. Other than that, the place is full of leftard loony tunes. Hypocrisy–Seattle oozes it–it drips from every nook and cranny. But so does every other liberal-run city.

    (I’m sorry you’re not feeling well, James. I hope you recover quickly.)


  2. Latitude says:

    What have you caught now?…..and don’t give it to me right now either!

    My take…..I’m sick and tired of “social justice”…I’m at the point that no one has the ‘right’ to not be discriminated against….TV, news, movies, media, etc even says we no longer even have the right to be offended…….we all are in one way or the other every single day
    I someone owns a their friend a discount…and I go to that business and don’t get a discount., I being discriminated against?……who gives a sh1t!

    All this ‘micro aggression’ crap has played out their hand…..let the market take care of itself

    Did the gay guy have a right to not serve them….I say yes….no different than the cake deal
    …did he have a right to be vulgar and in their face?…so he’s trash..society today has promoted trash

    • Latitude says:

      left a ‘not’ out……TV, news, movies, media, etc even says we no longer even have the right to ‘not’ be offended……

  3. jackie Sexton says:

    We all must prepare ourselves for the turn against Christians. The last count of Christians in our “Christian” Nation is less than 50%. Of course, that is because Christians don’t visit lost neighbors, friends or relatives. We would rather see them go to hell. Well, I certainly hadn’t heard of that situation of the abolitionists on the liberal news either.

    • Latitude says:

      odd isn’t it Jackie…..Christians are under attack….and at the same time we’re supposed to welcome with open arms a group of people that practice some backward violent third world religion …the religion of peace

  4. philjourdan says:

    Hypocrisy? That is nothing new. But I am amused by the fact the owner wanted to conduct lewd, lascivious, and demeaning acts in public to drive home a point not in contention. He could just have easily asked if they wanted to see a normal couple copulate in front of them. The answer would still have been no.

    It appears to be less hypocrisy (although there is a lot of it) and more lack of intelligence.

    But as strange as it appears, I support his right to free association. I definitely would not want to patronize a place that hates me.

  5. leftinflagstaff says:

    Yes, the common sense answer seems to me, to be: are you being asked to serve the person, or the person’s views. Refusing the person is discrimination against them, forcing me to serve the person’s views is discrimination against me. My graphic design business, for example, has and will provide services to gays, pro-abortionists, etc. But only because they weren’t asking for a pro-gay or pro-abortion graphic. Those they would not receive from me. Plenty of other options for them are a phone call away.

    Same with the bakers: Make a traditional wedding cake whether a gay or straight asks you. Reject a gay wedding cake whether a gay or straight asks you. Business owners have a right to their conscience also.

    These Christians didn’t seem to be using his business as a platform for their views, so he had zero reason to refuse them service, other than being a childish moron.

    • Latitude says:

      “other than being a childish moron”….we seem to have an over abundance of them in all colors

    • suyts says:

      Ding, ding, ding!!!! Absolutely! ……. Now, what does the law read, what should the law read?

      • leftinflagstaff says:

        Shouldn’t even need a law. Just understand and respect that business owners are Americans also, with opinions that may vary from yours. And shouldn’t have their right to those opinions infringed simply because their livelihood happens to include possible interaction with those who think differently. The market will always provide options. Try the guy across the street.

        Any ‘law’ should somehow define the difference I referred to: Are you serving just any person, or are you being forced to serve their beliefs, with which you might disagree.

        • Latitude says:

          exactly…..would you force a mechanic to work on your car…..if he told you he doesn’t work on those cars?

        • leftinflagstaff says:

          Yep. If I was ever forced/sued to design someone’s abortion pamphlet, the result would be an absurdly expensive, worst looking pamphlet ever.

        • Latitude says:

          …and damned if I would force someone to bake a cake…and then eat it!!

        • I think it’s just the liberal mindset. I’m amazed how pedestrians here in Washington State walk across streets without looking (in Everett, they don’t even use crosswalks). When driving, I have to stop by law, but I’ve seen many cars plow through crosswalks with and without pedestrians present. Apparently the possibility of being hit by a several ton vehicle doesn’t seem to phase them.

          I’ve come to two possibilities to their thinking: 1) if hit, they’ll clean up on the lawsuit; and 2) they’ve essentially outsourced their well-being to someone else (the driver of a car and government laws in this case).

          I personally don’t trust drivers to see me and stop–I look both ways before using a crosswalk. Even though it’s illegal to text while driving in this state, that’s still no guarantee that the driver isn’t texting. And no matter how much I’d make in a lawsuit, I don’t want to deal with a battered body for the rest of my life–if I can help it.


        • leftinflagstaff says:

          Heh. A keepsake from Brooklyn I carry with me at all times, is a titanium and artificial bone rebuilt right knee. Gifted to me by a vehicle while I was in a crosswalk at the proper time. During the ‘Cross Now’ signal.

          And no idea who to sue with a hit-and-run.

  6. cdquarles says:

    Ideally, and particularly if the government keeps its nose out of it, the market would sort this out.

  7. kelly says:

    “Would it be better to simply let the markets sort this out? Or, is this beyond the pale of the market place?”

    Well it all depends on how far things go whether a government should step in. If some religious person regardless of which religion approaches me on the street of course I would find that offensive just as they would find it offensive if I was trying to recruit them to be atheists. So the Christians doing that on the street are doing something that is offensive to anyone who does not hold the same belief. If I owned the coffee shop and they entered but were not behaving in an offensive manner in my shop I probably wouldn’t care but if they did behave offensively towards me or another customer I would ask them to leave. We can’t be sure that this did not happen although in this case it does appear it did not.

    If I saw these people on the street offending me I would just ignore them and keep walking. If they did something like follow me or block my path and harass me then I would probably say something back and it wouldn’t be very polite

    I would hope that 90% of people regardless of what their beliefs are would take a similar approach to myself.

    • leftinflagstaff says:

      It’s supposed to be that easy. But that was before immaturity and ego made being offended an apocalyptic experience for many.

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