Votes Aren’t All Tallied Yet ….. Dims Claim Hillary Won Popular Vote!!!!!


From HuffPo …..


Well, no, the votes aren’t all in, yet.  And, the margin is so slim one can’t tell.  But, go ahead with the meme.  It doesn’t matter because that’s not what elects a president in the US. 

Their tears are delicious! 

I would say that some people simply don’t understand what “democracy” is.  But, perhaps, there are many on the Dim side who do understand what democracy is, and wish to inflict it upon the rest of us.  Our founding fathers put a system in place to protect us from democracy.  As Ben Franklin described it, “democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what’s for dinner.”  May we never see democracy imposed upon the US.

However, because of the split in the popular vote, this may not be the watershed moment it appears to be at first blush.  Whether it is or isn’t entirely depends on how Trump leads this nation. 

Upon reflection, it’s strange for me.  It’s conflicting.  While I’m very glad Hillary didn’t get in, and hopeful Trump will make good on his promises, the way it happened disappoints me a bit. 

As most people here would know, I have been and continue to be an advocate for more political parties.  This election clearly demonstrated the need for alternative parties on both sides of the spectrum.  And, while the Repub party will likely be in turmoil for a while, the Dim party will be an absolute mess for a longer period of time.  Trump’s ascension through the Repub party pretty much eliminates any chance of an alternative conservative party for quite some time. 

For now, the question is can Trump heal the wounds inflicted upon the Repubs enough that they can govern together?  Repubs kept both the House and the Senate.  (And, will probably keep the Senate next midterm.)  But, to effectively govern, they all have to be on the same page. 

I have no illusions that the Dims will be a party to stand in loyal opposition.  Most of the Dims have demonstrated their loathing for all ideas American.  OTOH, if the Dims didn’t get the message from their own people, they’ll be losing elections for a long time to come. 

So, how did the polls get it so wrong? 

Well, to be honest, I don’t really know.  My thought is that it was a combination of things.  Probably most importantly was the closet Trumpers.  There was no way to gauge how many were out there, the polling couldn’t see them.  Also, and I got a kick out of this ….. at the start of the night, last night, the “experts” started with droning about how many minorities were showing up to vote, and simply assumed they were all voting Dim.  I swear it looked like Fox was about to call the election for Hillary before the votes started to come in.  CNN, as well.  The assumption was that only white rednecks would show up for Trump. 

But, what also can’t be overstated is the lack of enthusiasm from the left.  Again, to be honest, I believe had they picked Sanders it would have been an entirely different response from the left.  Instead, they picked Hillary who seemed to stand for nothing other than the ‘status quo’.  Well, that’s not going to excite a leftist.  Trump, OTOH, stood for changing the system.  It was quite fascinating to see the never Trumpers reluctantly get on board. 

One of the things I’m most optimistic about is the future of the Supreme Court!   If Trump stands by his list of potential jurists, then we will have a decent SCOTUS for years to come! 

My parting thought (I’m still reeling from the late night and all the beer I consumed …….. missed 1/2 day of work!!!!)  is that we need to hold Trump’s feet to the fire in regards to the wall.  He will get great resistance from both sides.  The people who put him where he is today must constantly remind him of this.  If we get an effective wall and a sane immigration policy, along with a literal constitutionalist SCOTUS I will consider Trump’s term as a great success. 

I pray God will grant him the wisdom necessary to effectively lead this nation. 

In the meantime …….  find the people clamoring for this ……


and relentlessly mock them!!!!!  Open-mouthed smile

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63 Responses to Votes Aren’t All Tallied Yet ….. Dims Claim Hillary Won Popular Vote!!!!!

  1. Me says:

    SPU with signs pointing to mexico! 😆

  2. Me says:

    Just heard Trump won the Popular vote too!

  3. kelly says:

    Very interesting and given the way people seemed at least to a large extent go for the non-establishment choice Bernie Sanders might have actually had a better chance than Hilary. Many of the people who voted for Trump would have turned to Sanders had he been the other choice I think.

    • suyts says:

      Very possible. I’m pretty sure he would have had a better turnout than Hillary did.

      • Latitude says:

        ..and that has as much or more to do with it than anything

        Our 24 hour news has turned this into a talent contest…something between dancing with the start..and America’s got tallent

        The biggest reason Obama won….he had spunk, was alive…cussed, acted up, huge stage presence

        Trump tapped into that…

        McCain…code blue
        Romney….road kill
        Hillary….the aunt you can’t stand, desperate, needy
        Jeb Bush….an act of love (gag me)
        Cruz….God will get you
        Rubio…..cousin you would not leave alone with your sister….or brother!
        etc etc..all practiced, reserved……boring..dead in the saddle

        Sanders…..acted up, had spunk, cussed, etc
        Trump…took no BS, acted up, cussed…man’s alive!!
        ..but neither of them over the line with what is not acceptable

        nope, what turns people out….energy!

  4. Scott says:

    People who don’t actually do number crunching, statistics, and quantitative application in the real world just don’t get it. Any number claims, confidence levels, or predictions are only as good as the assumptions/data going in. Or the also-true converse we all know–GIGO.

    This is obvious for the polling projections.

    Where it is less obvious is for the popular-vote claim. I’m fairly confident that had the election been a popular-vote election then Trump still would have won. Why? Simple–more people would have voted. You think Repubs in Kansas who were dissatisfied with Trump and didn’t vote would have done the same if it were a popular-vote election? James, why don’t you answer that for me? In general, in non-swing states the controlling party voters are less likely to vote if they’re repubs than if they’re dems. Several reasons–repubs usually have to travel farther (rural), repubs tend to be employed more frequently (more complicated schedule), repubs tend to be more efficient with their time (why vote if my candidate is winning anyway?), and repubs tend to have bigger families (hard to fit it in if I have to take care of the kids).


    • >>
      . . . voters are less likely to vote if they’re repubs . . . .

      Yes, those are all good excuses, but none are good reasons for not voting. If you care for your country, then you make time to vote. I’ve been on active duty, yet I’ve been able to order an absentee ballot, fill it out, and send it in on time for Presidential elections. I have little patience for so-called Republicans who are too busy to vote. They just don’t care.


      • Scott says:

        You’re correct Jim. But you and I both know that life gets in the way sometimes, and for many people it’s not worth the extra effort. Wrong as it is, it still happens all the time when people know their vote isn’t going to matter.


    • Yep. I see the EC, and political parties as well, as merely watering down the election process. If you live in NYC, you’re trained to be DEM, and even if you’re not, your state is going DEM. Absurd to put the effort in to vote another way. Remove the EC and parties, that absurdity goes away.

    • suyts says:

      Scott, yes. As I stated many moons ago, I wasn’t going to vote for Trump. (I ended up voting for him, inadvertently.) But, I explained that I had that luxury. Regardless of whether I voted for Donald, a 3rd party, Hillary, or didn’t vote at all, Kansas was going to go Repub. If Kansas didn’t go Repub, then Trump would lose in a landslide.

  5. philjourdan says:

    The silence of the democrats is very telling. The popular vote, at least as reported, is very close, and Trump won a lot of states by a very small margin. Yet no calls for recounts. Why?

    I think there was a lot of voter fraud. And that is why Hillary was so close in the popular vote. But they forgot how a president is elected. And so you see states like California with massive fraud, but it did not make any difference! I think there was some in the other states. But they missed the magnitude of the Trump turnout, and so still lost.

    The problem I see with this win is the fraud will go unreported and hidden, but not go away.

    And the polls were wrong because they measured the wrong people. There was a massive surge for Trump – because a lot of the establishment, on both sides, stayed home!

  6. Latitude says:

    I think it’s going to take a good month for this to sink in…on both sides. least that long for people to realize how monumental this really was

    Every entity out there was trying to rig this election…

    Media, news, mags, movies, TV shows…tried to rig it
    Universities/schools…tried to rig it
    Soros, Kock, etc……tried to rig it
    Banks, insurance, etc…tried to rig it
    Governments, EU, etc…tried to rig it
    Our own government, FBI, DOJ, EPA, IRS, Judges, etc…..tried to rig it
    People were paid to riot, demonstrate……tried to rig it
    Polls…..tried to rig it
    No voting machine in this country had to be “re-calibrated” because it changed a vote from democrat to republican……tried to rig it
    Illegals voted, and were encouraged by our president to vote…..tried to rig it
    Dead people were bused all over to vote…tried to rig it
    Wall Street…tried to rig it
    Every political party, Democrat, Communist, Republican…..tried to rig it
    Every left over hippy green organization…tried to rig it
    Every Black organization…tried to rig it
    ..and on and on

    • Latitude says:

      I forgot….some of the biggest players in rigging this election

      Microsoft, Google, Facebook, Twitter, etc……tried to rig this election

    • Me says:

      Pretty much, Trump had to fight every step of the way and had very little help, got some in the end but little from the RNC so he financed it himself, and the biggest help he had was from the people that had enough. I think this was a bigger win than the numbers say because of what you stated above.
      I think Hellary did it to herself with the DNC corruption and wikileaks and FBI invistigations, and for her to still came out as strong as she did has to be something crooked going behind the sceens!

  7. Latitude says:

    So, how did the polls get it so wrong? …

    By not factoring in that liberals are F’in dangerous….conservatives are not going to tell some stranger how they are voting…and then have their house burned down

    • Scott says:

      Makes me laugh every time you say it!

      • Latitude says:

        well I mean look at the idiots right now….they are rioting all over the country
        …and are so stupid they don’t realize that’s exactly what got Trump elected

        We’re all sick and tired of it

        • Scott says:

          Funny this could be real “change” even though it’s not billed as such. Compare to 2008…almost polar opposites.

          I’m still not convinced Trump is going to do a good job. But, frankly, he’s doing an excellent job so far as far as I’m concerned. The self destruction of the media is proof of that.


        • suyts says:

          Their tears are as sweet as honey to me!!!!! And, Scott, I once again agree. If Trump does nothing else, he has, at least put a stake in the heart of LSM!

  8. Latitude says:

    how many minorities were showing up to vote, and simply assumed they were all voting Dim….

    …and they were not

    This was hysterical….on live news……the black guy flashed his MAGA hat behind the reported while he was voting

  9. Latitude says:

    The assumption was that only white rednecks would show up for Trump. ..

    Well exactly…..and the minority news didn’t help….they were doing some of the stupidest things I’ve ever seen…

    The Latin news in south Florida was telling Latins that if Trump got elected….they would come in the middle of the night and haul them away…

    But they were using the picture of Elián González!!!!!!!!

    ….and everyone knows that was Clinton that did that!!!………..un f’in believable!

  10. Latitude says:

    we need to hold Trump’s feet to the fire…

    First stop this sanctuary city BS…..who in this world ever heard of anything that ridiculous???
    …and what exactly is it?
    some cross between duty free and no go zone?

  11. Scott says:

    Probably obvious to everyone that’s not a liberal, but a major factor in why polls can fail, generically given, is that only ~1/2 the eligible country votes. If someone or some factor can tap into even a small portion of those non-voters, they can gain a huge, unexpected advantage. Who do you think swung PA? MI to a degree too, but part of it is probably the decrease in Detroit’s size.


  12. leftinflagstaff says:

    Relying on the vote to preserve our way of life must begin to wane, as it’s effectiveness in doing so wanes. We may have hopefully just shot out a tire in that 18-wheeler. But they’ve got a spare.

  13. Me says:

    The only thing I would add is not all of Bills flings \ advancements were whores, some were victoms!

  14. Me says:

    This one is priceless!

  15. Lars P. says:

    A fresh article on the EM drive – it seems NASA has a not published/not peer reviewed paper on it

  16. Me says:

    Not sure what to make of this, but it seems a coencidence that this happened after Trump won the election. what do you make of it?

  17. Latitude says:

    Watch some spanish news….it’s good for a laugh
    They were interviewing some woman..been in this country 26 years…and she’s scared she’s going to get deported……..Trump’s going to split up my family

    Just so I’m clear….you can’t get deported if you have a green card, work permit, etc….
    ..and obviously not if you’re a citizen or even applying

    So she came here illegally…has stayed here illegally… in 26 years was too f’in lazy to get papers or do anything…
    and now, all of a sudden…it dawns on her she might get caught and kicked out

    ..and she’s complaining about how unjust and unfair this country is

    Kick her skankyass out…right now, the sooner the better

    • Valid green card, work permit. If expired you’re as illegal as the guy in a tunnel. And must be treated as such.

      • Latitude says:

        What she was saying is that she doesn’t have a job…has been living here all those years sponging off welfare, food stamps, etc….and how unfair and unjust this country is

        • Gotta go, yes. But so do the supposed temporaries who overstay. Even splitting families, if any members are legal.

          This has to get real, or we were kidding ourselves all along, and just as delusional about this as Libs.

        • Latitude says:

          absolutely yes… has to get real……or just forget about it and throw the doors wide open

          What pisses me off…..we quarantine plants and animals better than this
          …just try to import a goldfish

        • Exactly. Time to turn off our beloved melting pot. The kitchen’s on fire.

  18. philjourdan says:

    Sooooo…. has 35% of the Federal workforce submitted their resignations?

    No? Yea, that is a surprise that the parasites are also dishonest.

  19. Latitude says:


    All the countries…Mexico, China, Canada…and on and on
    Wall Street rallied big time…politicians…..

    ..and all the little people and countries that said they would never work with Trump

    are all now groveling at his feet..and begging for forgiveness

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