Well, as we all know by now, Turkey shot down a Russian jet. Where the Russian jet was at the time is disputed.
At this moment, I really don’t have much to say about this, but, I realize some would want me to chime in (mostly readers who don’t regularly comment). Most of the commentators have already formed a thought and are familiar with the reality of the situation. But, many are not, so, I’ll just try to interject some reality.
First, let’s start by saying Turkey is a part of NATO. NATO is a cold-war holdover which really serves no purpose today. It was formed to counter the Soviet Union’s military aggression in Europe. There is no Soviet Union today, and while many would perceive some of Russia’s initiatives as “aggression”, they have not threaten Europe proper with military or physical aggression (depending on one’s view of the roil in the Ukraine). To my knowledge, Turkey was never seriously threatened even when there was a Soviet Union. They joined NATO as a vehicle to gain protection from more nearby neighbors.
Continuing with some reality, and this is probably most important to note, Turkey isn’t fighting ISIS. Let me repeat this for emphasis ……. Turkey is not fighting ISIS! Turkey reluctantly allows the US to fly missions against ISIS from their soil, but, Turkey isn’t fighting ISIS. Turkey is fighting the Kurds. The Kurds are fighting ISIS. The US is fighting ISIS, but, only because of the huge outcry of the people of the US. Recall the months and months of inaction and silence by president Zero in the face of the atrocities committed by ISIS. Turkey does want Assad removed from Syria, as does president Zero. Russia likes Assad. Zero is upset with Putin because Russia also attacks people Zero deems as “moderate rebels”. Which is fascinating because it’s a bit of an oxymoron. There is no such thing as a “moderate rebel”. I am unaware of any pro-US group fighting Assad other than the groups the US refuses to arm.
Those are the facts.
Was the Russian jet in Turkey air-space? Probably. The Russians have been ignoring air-space for some time now. Should Turkey have shot down the jet? No, that was incredibly stupid, and a fool’s bet. There was nothing to gain and much to lose over this action.
Turkey is like that little mouthy guy at the bar who came in with a few big friends. If Turkey wasn’t part of NATO would they have shot down the Russian jet? Not a chance in hell. What our “friend” Ergy doesn’t understand is that there is no appetite for a war with Russia. Not in Europe, not among the people of the US. We’ve no reason to defend Turkey. At one time, Turkey was a progressive nation with a Muslim majority. It is quickly turning to an Islamic state, itself. It is a primary conduit to the European invasion. They’ve nothing to offer us in return for their protection.
What will Putin do? I’ve no idea. Probably nothing ….. overtly, right now. But, Putin will respond in time. Still, he’s a bit of a hothead, so it could be that he responds forcefully very soon. I think he’s smarter than that, but, one never knows.
Did I just write about post admonishing entering in multi-lateral treaties? Well, yes, yes, I did. This is another great reason why a nation should not do such things. If Russia responds, we are obligated, by treaty, to defend Turkey, as are the rest of the members of NATO. If we do not defend Turkey (in response to imagined Russian aggression) then we demonstrate our treaties and words are worth nothing (which they are).
For right now, all I have to say is that it is well past time to disband NATO. If the Europeans wish a military alliance, let them do it through the EU. The US (and Canada) needs no part of it. If certain states of Europe wish to ally with Russia, so what? Let them. For instance, if Portugal wishes to ally with Russia, it doesn’t harm the interests of the US one whit. Neither does it strengthen Russia. Europe, as the EU, is a failing and a flailing entity. Anyone allowing themselves to be attached to Europe, in its present state, is simply tying an albatross around their neck. Turkey, is, in many respects, part of Europe and every bit a part of the albatross.