Shock Breaking News!!!!! Welfare Programs Discourages Work!!!!!

Prolly no one ever saw this coming!


Seattle sees fallout from $15 minimum wage, as other cities follow suit

Seattle’s $15 minimum wage law is supposed to lift workers out of poverty and move them off public assistance. But there may be a hitch in the plan.

Evidence is surfacing that some workers are asking their bosses for fewer hours as their wages rise – in a bid to keep overall income down so they don’t lose public subsidies for things like food, child care and rent.

Full Life Care, a home nursing nonprofit, told KIRO-TV in Seattle that several workers want to work less.

“If they cut down their hours to stay on those subsidies because the $15 per hour minimum wage didn’t actually help get them out of poverty, all you’ve done is put a burden on the business and given false hope to a lot of people,” said Jason Rantz, host of the Jason Rantz show on 97.3 KIRO-FM.

The twist is just one apparent side effect of the controversial — yet trendsetting — minimum wage law in Seattle, which is being copied in several other cities despite concerns over prices rising and businesses struggling to keep up.

The notion that employees are intentionally working less to preserve their welfare has been a hot topic on talk radio. While the claims are difficult to track, state stats indeed suggest few are moving off welfare programs under the new wage.

Despite a booming economy throughout western Washington, the state’s welfare caseload has dropped very little since the higher wage phase began in Seattle in April. In March 130,851 people were enrolled in the Basic Food program. In April, the caseload dropped to 130,376.

At the same time, prices appear to be going up on just about everything.

Some restaurants have tacked on a 15 percent surcharge to cover the higher wages. And some managers are no longer encouraging customers to tip, leading to a redistribution of income. Workers in the back of the kitchen, such as dishwashers and cooks, are getting paid more, but servers who rely on tips are seeing a pay cut.

Some long-time Seattle restaurants have closed altogether, though none of the owners publicly blamed the minimum wage law.

“It’s what happens when the government imposes a restriction on the labor market that normally wouldn’t be there, and marginal businesses get hit the hardest, and usually those are small, neighborhood businesses,” said Paul Guppy, of the Washington Policy Center.

Seattle was followed by San Francisco and Los Angeles in passing a $15 minimum wage law. The wage is being phased in over several years to give businesses time to adjust. The current minimum wage in Seattle is $11. In San Francisco, it’s $12.25.

And it is spreading. Beyond the city of Los Angeles, the Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors this week also approved a $15 minimum wage.

New York state could be next, with the state Wage Board on Wednesday backing a $15 wage for fast-food workers, something Gov. Andrew Cuomo has supported. 

Already, though, there are unintended consequences in other cities. 

Comix Experience, a small book store in downtown San Francisco, has begun selling graphic novel club subscriptions in order to meet payroll. The owner, Brian Hibbs, admits members are not getting all that much for their $25 per month dues, but their “donation” is keeping him in business.

“I was looking at potentially having to close the store down and then how would I make my living?” Hibbs asked.

To date, he’s sold 228 subscriptions. He says he needs 334 to reach his goal of the $80,000 income required to cover higher labor costs. He doesn’t blame San Francisco voters for approving the $15 minimum wage, but he doesn’t think they had all the information needed to make a good decision.

Mr. Hibbs, they had all the information they needed, at their disposal, they chose not to heed it because it conflicted with their world view.  1,000 times people with knowledge of the economics imposed by raising the minimum wage can be proven correct and leftards will still refuse to believe them. 

The people on the welfare programs are doing a simple cost/benefit analysis.  The cost is having to drag your ass to work everyday, or, simply do it part time and still have all the cool stuff! 

It’s hard to blame them.  If I could give myself a raise, and then only work part-time to keep the same level of income, I absolutely would do it!  Unfortunately, someone has to work full time to pay for the freebies we’re giving the part-time wannabees, whereas I wouldn’t ask anything from the state or the feds if I got a raise to allow me to work part-time. 

It’s a beautiful system!  There are many couples in Kansas, both working, making less than $15/hr, yet, paying to subsidize the deadbeats in places like Seattle. 

Of course, these are only the beginnings of the full idiotic effect of raising a minimum wage in Seattle and other places. 

Let’s say a worker in a nearby town works in a factory.  Works his/her ass off every day for $12hr-$14/hr.  They see their useless friend working part-time in Seattle at a mindless fast-food restaurant making $15/hr.  ……. Where do you believe that factory worker will go?  Well, of course, the factory owners could always give a raise commiserate to the raise given to the minimum wage workers.  But, then, that puts them at a greater disadvantage to factories operating in places where they don’t have to give their workers a $5/hr bump just to keep them.  Where, do you believe the factory will go?

To the leftards out there who may not believe what I’m laying down, all I have to say is “Detroit”, and “off-shoring”.

The wake of destruction in places being run by leftards is always unmistakable.   

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12 Responses to Shock Breaking News!!!!! Welfare Programs Discourages Work!!!!!

  1. leftinflagstaff says:

    Government will always be an invasive species in an economy.

  2. Ted G says:

    I just Heard on the BBC New York state has voted the $15/ hr in, Progressive idiots never learn or listen to the problems this will cause the very people who need help and any kind of job. On another note what will the the Progressives do for the Illegal immigrants pay???? What can go wrong – EVERYTHING!!!!!!!

    • suyts says:

      Yeh, NY is going the way of Seattle, and in turn, the rest of the US will catch up …. it’s inevitable.
      And, yes, this is problematic for the advocates of illegal immigration. It’s either self imploding or self defeating …. it’s their choice.

      In the end, for a time, people will lose jobs. The welfare laws will eventually catch up and the same people making minimum wage today, will be the same people getting back on welfare tomorrow. Prices will go up, and the middle class will be further decimated.

  3. gator69 says:

    At $15 per hour, I can afford to live on my property and pay all my bills with money left over. I have worked decades to get to this point, at one time making only $3.25 per hour. At $3.25 per hour I could not afford to own a home or even pay rent, at that time. Why should I be burdened with buying homes for those who have not paid their dues?

    I thought this was about “fairness”.

  4. Keitho says:

    Exactly the same thing happened with miners wages in the UK in the 70’s and 80’s. Every time the wage went up the miner worked fewer hours. The reduction in working hours resulted in more pub time.

    How do I know? I was there in Yorkshire at the time.

  5. DirkH says:

    From the dept. of the obvious.
    Leftards, they can’t think even one step ahead. They are in a small-child-like state where you wish something and hope mommy and daddy make the wish come true.

    • DirkH says:

      SPD, the Turkish little sister of CDU (both social-democrat), managed to convince Mommy Merkel to have a minimum wage in Germany. Taxi from my pub home went from 9 to 12 EUR; well, as I wanted to get used more to Urban warfare anyway, I’m now walking more often through the city centre at night.

  6. MolCZet says:

    This is a great article with great points. I agree with everything in here, except you using the term “leftards”. You do realize that if someone from the left read this article, it might make a lightbulb go off and suddenly they understand the economics of the $15 minimum wage. However, as soon as you use the term “leftards” they are no longer listening because you are calling them ugly names. If we could all stop with the name-calling rhetoric, we might be able to have a discussion, and come to some sense together.

    • suyts says:

      MolCZet, thanks! Sorry about the wait in moderation, it’s been busy of late for me. You are now approved to freely comment.

      Yeh, I used to write in a much nicer tone for the very reason you stated. However, over the years I’ve come to realize the overwhelming majority of leftists are simply note bright enough to understand the things I write about. And, the ones who are bright enough to understand, they’ve an entirely different agenda. So, the people I’m trying to reach are the ones who don’t consider themselves leftists, but, haven’t given these issues much thought.

    • gator69 says:

      MolCZet, if you notice, our host does not abuse “liberals”. This is an important distinction because real liberals are not the enemy, but leftists most definitely are. Sadly many liberals have been fooled into following the far left down the path of servitude and fascism, and it is hoped that they can be saved through thoughtful discourse.

      But leftists deserve every bit of scorn and abuse we can muster.

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