So, Here’s An Idea …… Wait! Let The Runners Sort Themselves Out Before Debates!

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So, the Repub field of presidential candidates is expected to be a mob of about 16.  Fox and CNN are already announcing their plans on how they’re going to deal with this mass of people. 

Seriously, there should only be about 3 or 4 candidates.  However, with the ego of a politician, and the sycophants they have around them, this election has more than a dozen Repub candidates believing they can win the presidency.  This is mostly because, odds are, a Repub will win.  Which Repub?  That’s a different question. 

Here’s how you solve this madness.  Let them run and spend themselves out of money.  Let the polls do the talking.  Eventually, the pretend candidates will get the message.  That said, this in itself, won’t weed out enough. 

Here’s a list of probably candidates ….

Florida governor Jeb Bush, Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida, Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky, Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas, former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee, retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, real estate tycoon Donald Trump and former Texas governor Rick Perry, according to a Washington Post analysis. Former U.S. senator Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania and Ohio Gov. John Kasich are a fraction of a point behind Perry. Lagging behind those 12 are Sen. Lindsey O. Graham of South Carolina, Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, former Hewlett-Packard chief executive Carly Fiorina and former New York governor George Pataki.

Now, some may disagree with me, and they’re welcome to do so, but, here’s a list of “not-a-chance-in-heck” people from the above …. First … Huckabee.  Honestly, I like Mike Huck.  But, to be base, he shot his wad last time, and failed.  He’s not going to get more supporters this time around.  The fact is, he’s got problems with education and immigration that he can’t get around.  But, this is because he ran last time.  Yes, he can change his position, as he did with Common Core, but, it’s a subtraction from what he had last time.  Immigration …. the same … it’s a subtraction.   He didn’t win, or even come close last time, and he’s already subtracted from his base, so he’s not going to get there this time around. 

Secondly, …. Donald Trump?  HAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHA!!!!!  Yeh, but, no.  Not only no, but, hell no!!!  He could be one of the few Repub candidates who could lose to a Dim. 

Rick Santorum …. see why Huckabee won’t make it and then double plus it, and that’s why Rick won’t come close.

I can only believe that McCain has convinced Graham that he’s viable.  Look, I’m all about expressing US military might, but, Graham scares the hell out of me …… and that’s his strong suit!!!  I don’t believe in Graham could carry even South Carolina against the rest of the field, much less any other state. 

The rest would be fairly legit, except for the field.  There are some exceptional dynamics with the rest of them. 

My feelings are that Cruz, Paul, and Carson appeal to the Repub base.  Bush and Rubio appeal to the more moderate Repubs, while Christie appeals to the leftarded NE Repubs.  This isn’t to be taken lightly because of the populous in the area he appeals to.  The same can be said about Fiorina … except on the left coast.  Both are unfortunate because while this can gain them many delegates in the Repub primaries, they won’t carry the states of Cali and NY in the general election. 

But, speaking of states …. reversing it, the populous Repub states, Florida and Texas (Repubs have to win both if they’re to win the presidency) we’ve Bush/Rubio in Florida, and Cruz/Perry in Texas.  All would probably carry both states in the general election, but, it would be interesting to see who would carry which in the Repub primaries. 

The two wild cards are Jindal and Pataki.  You can’t underestimate either.  Personally, I like Jindal almost as much as I like any of the others.  Pataki, well, I think it’s possible for him to actually carry NY in the general election.  And, he’s probably beat Christie, in NY, in the Repub primary.  Pataki is a contrast to the likes of Cruz and Paul.  …… Oh, I haven’t mentioned Paul, yet …..

For the heart of the base, it’s between Paul and Cruz.  Will that be enough for either?  I don’t know.  I believe Cruz would convert more people to be Repubs in the general election, but, I also believe Paul would attract more independents to vote for him.  Both are extremely articulate, and able to convey their message in a fantastic manner.  They have differences, but, they are few.

Carson ….. I simply don’t believe he’s prepared for what’s coming to him.  Nor, do I believe he’s prepared to run this nation.  Don’t get me wrong.  I like the heck out of Carson, like his message, and his intelligence.  I allow that he can show me wrong, but, I’m not wrong. 

What some of these people need to do is to get out of the race early, and start working with the viable candidates.  Maybe land a spot in the government in which their talents could be best put to use. 

FWIW, that’s my opinion.  What’s yours?

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20 Responses to So, Here’s An Idea …… Wait! Let The Runners Sort Themselves Out Before Debates!

  1. Latitude says:

    mine…
    The democrats tend to gather around one candidate..early…and push that one candidate all the way through…..forget that Biden said he’s clean…and Hillary’s negro accent…and Bill’s watermelon joke
    This is all well and fine, because a democrat is a democrat…

    Republicans do themselves in….Repubs needs the stay at home no voters, the undecideds, etc….by the time they get through knocking each other….everyone is sick and tired of them….they all look like they have too many faults…and it seems they have already served a full term

    Republicans need to pick one or two….with an obvious favorite….get rid of number 2 fast….and concentrate on that one all the way to the home plate..do not talk bad about him/her….talk about how great they are….etc etc

    ….right out of the democrat play book

    • cdquarles says:

      The problem with that is that the Establishment would never put a Reagan up for that. They’d put a mushy wimp through before they’ll ever let a Reagan happen again. Still, that bruising fight Reagan had every time he ran only made him stronger. The R base, to the extent it is conservative, needs to rally to one conservative. Let the mushy Establishment types fight among themselves. I think the best thing to happen, now, would be for a two-man R fight happen. One articulate philosophical R that’s grounded in classical liberalism and let the other one be whatever Establishment progressive-lite they can rally around fight it out. I even figure they’ll find some mush to be 3rd party if it came to that; yet that might work more to the conservative’s favor, similar to 1980.

      • suyts says:

        Right, ….. but, pick one. Paul, Cruz, Jindal? Agree, but, they’re all in the race. My hope is that they’ll come to an agreement of some sort.

        • Latitude says:

          that’s going to be the biggest problem….the republican machine is going to pick Bush…and then try to destroy all the others
          My pick would be Cruz, Paul, and Rubio….only because that would make the most interesting debates….with Cruz for pres, and Paul for veep

        • cdquarles says:

          Right now, I’d say go with Cruz. He seems to be the best, philosophically, and having done government service in Texas as well as being a fighter in the Senate gives him a bit of a plus.

        • suyts says:

          Yeh, right now, I’m with Cruz, too. Lat, you’re right, they’re going to want Bush … but, Christie may throw a wrench in that plan. Rubio lost me with his immigration bs.

          Cd, I agree with you, too. I think that he came out as a firebrand, and took the heat early will help him. But, I’m unsure that will be enough.

  2. cdquarles says:

    On one hand, I think the best thing that could happen would be for a non-lawyer, non-professional politician to win. On the other hand, folk want to see someone with government experience …. still, it is notable that our founders didn’t list previous government experience as a qualification. They thought that a leader would be someone wise and experienced enough would suffice. Then again, their vision was of a government small enough that a virtuous people would retain enough vigor to defend their natural rights.

    • Latitude says:

      cd, I think you hit on it…..we’re too big for one person to run it any more

    • suyts says:

      I’d love to see a non-professional politician win …. it’s just that in today’s world, they can’t. Especially a conservative. They’re simply not prepared for the dishonest vitriol which accompanies any person who really wishes to simply fix things which are wrong.

  3. Martin C says:

    We need a former governor, someone other than a senator or representative, who has been a ‘chief executive’ of his state. Someone who has demonstrated they can work with the other part. BUt I don’t care for Jeb, because of the ‘Bush Baggage that will be trotted out.
    I know Walker made some bad gaffs early on, but I would prefer him with Rubio as the ticket.

  4. kim2ooo says:

    Let’s hope that whomever they pick,,, has some idea of military strategy.

    Obama will leave the next President immersed in war…. that he could have turned… if not prevented.

  5. kim2ooo says:

    Soooooooooooooooooo………

    How do you feel about fast tracking the trade agreement?

    http://www.examiner.com/article/free-trade-what-about-tpa-without-tpp

    • DirkH says:

      “With that in mind, the so-called “Trade Promotion Authority” (TPA) being debated alongside TPP may offer a solution. ”

      The main reason to throw out TPP and the other economic shackles US-EU, TPIP or what it was called, is, that the bills were SECRET. Actually that’s reason enough to disband the government; a “democratic” government that hides the contents of its treaties from voters needs to be dissolved and put in front of a judge immediately.

      The “examiner” does not say whether “TPA” is another of these secret deals. So, disband the Obama administration and the EU commission immediately; they are treasonous.

  6. kim2ooo says:

    Patriot Bill comes up for renewal………………

    16 “homegrowns” get arrested – in this week. ……….. coincidence???

    http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-rand-paul-filibuster-nsa-20150520-story.html

    Everyone is talking about the “phone metadata”…not much about the warrantless………

    In addition to the NSA bulk collection of phone data, programs set to expire include one that allows the FBI to collect business records like credit card and banking data for use in terrorism investigations.

    Another authorizes “roving wiretaps,” which permit the FBI to eavesdrop on every phone used by a suspected terrorist without seeking separate court warrants for each one. An additional program helps the FBI track a “lone wolf,” an individual suspected of planning a terrorist attack, even if he or she has no known link to a terrorist group.

    http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nsa-shutdown-20150521-story.html

    Some journalists / Politian’s try to argue: “We need the warnantless data to protect us”.

    No… you get a warrant for the first suspect – which gives you the number etc of the second suspect…you get a warrant for the second. With a warrant you don’t just have metadata access…it gives you voice etc.

    • kim2ooo says:

      They said: We don’t have time to get a warrant……………

      An electronic warrant takes about 20 minutes….. Are they saying they can access and decode metadata in less time??? _ I DOUBT IT.

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