More Stupid Leftarded Babbling!!!! Organic Fish!!!!!

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or·gan·ic

ôrˈɡanik/adjective

  1. 1.

    of, relating to, or derived from living matter.

    “organic soils”

    synonyms:
    living, live, animate, biological, biotic

    “organic matter”

  2. 2.

    PHYSIOLOGY

    of or relating to a bodily organ or organs.

Standards for organic seafood coming this year, USDA says

WASHINGTON (AP) — After more than a decade of delays, the government is moving toward allowing the sale of U.S.-raised organic fish and shellfish. But don’t expect it in the grocery store anytime soon.

The Agriculture Department says it will propose standards for the farmed organic fish this year. That means the seafood could be available in as few as two years — but only if USDA moves quickly to complete the rules and seafood companies decide to embrace them.

Organic seafood would be welcome news for the increasing number of organic shoppers — and for retailers that have profited from their higher prices. It also could help the U.S. farmed fish industry find a premium as it struggles to compete against cheaper imports. ……

…… Retailer Wegmans already is selling organic seafood imported from Norway and elsewhere. Organic shoppers “skew to higher income and education which makes them extremely desirable,” says Dave Wagner, the company’s vice president of seafood merchandising. ……

….. In turn, some consumer and environmental groups have said they are concerned the standards won’t be strict enough.

The discussions have been marked by tensions over what organic fish should eat and whether some of them can be raised in ocean cages called net pens. USDA’s McEvoy says the new rules will be based on a series of recommendations from the government’s National Organic Standards Board over the last decade.

Some environmental groups criticize the recommendations for suggesting that at first a quarter of the fish feed could be from sustainably wild-caught — but not organic — fish. A fish can’t be organic, they argue, if it doesn’t eat 100 percent organic feed.

Wild fish would not be eligible for the organic label — that would be too difficult to monitor.

The environmental groups also are concerned that fish in ocean pens would be able to escape and contaminate their surroundings. They also worry about ocean contaminants.

“What we’re saying is this isn’t organic,” says Lisa Bunin of the Center for Food Safety.

The recommendations suggest several safeguards: Ocean-farmed fish should be strains of local species, and no net pens could be placed on migratory routes. Producers would have to closely monitor water quality and the impact on the area ecosystem.

For producers, the main concern would be the availability of organic feed.

Breeding organic fish to feed the organic fish could be prohibitively expensive, and organic grains such as soybeans and canola that can make up fish feed also are also costly. Some fish feed includes poultry or other land animal byproducts, but that would likely be prohibited, as would most synthetic ingredients…….

Well, Lisa, what I’m saying is, you people are a group of idiotic lunatics. And, just for that, I’m going to take part in a fishery.  We’re going to raise fish, and sell them.  We’re going to call them organic, because they fit the dictionary and scientific definition of “organic”.  Indeed, I would like someone to show me an inorganic fish.  But, I’m also going to market the fish as “free range” fish, so I can raise the price even more to you lunatics.  But, that’ll only be half of the fish we sell.  The other half will be sold to normal human beings, and, I’ll simply label the fish as, well, fish.  To normal people, adding the word “organic” to “fish” would be redundant. 

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20 Responses to More Stupid Leftarded Babbling!!!! Organic Fish!!!!!

  1. HankH says:

    I suggest that you get Lat to assist in your new venture. He can produce he and she fish from she and he fish. I’m just saying you’ve got an expert in the Suyts family that can take organic to the next level 😉

    • Latitude says:

      Right now, I’m having enough trouble trying to “fix” a fish we invented

      • suyts says:

        You get that fixed and then, we’ll talk!!!

        • Latitude says:

          LOL…..they keep trying to revert…..I’m back crossing now and weeding culls

        • suyts says:

          Lat, on a more serious note, I may, in the near future, have some questions for you about fish. ….. fresh water type.

          I’m going to do a post on this sometime in the near future. Right now, we’re going through a “proof of concept” stage. My daughter and son-in-law are playing with something called “hydroponics”. It’s pretty cool stuff! They’ve got a big fish tank ( a large plastic tote) and they’re running the water from the tank over plants, planted in rocks over the tank. Celery, strawberries, water melons ….. and they’re growing very well! But, that’s only part of the equation, the other part is to raise fish! Catfish! The notion is that one feeds each other. The particular plants, yeh, I get that. Fish do what they do and water does what water does, and it feeds the plants, but, I think we need more for the fish ….. don’t get me wrong, they’ve got minnows for the catfish, and even a clam/muscle in the tank. They feed the minnows fish food like you would in a fish tank, but, I believe more needs to be done for the catfish to thrive. Not right now, but, I’ll have questions.

        • Latitude says:

          Purina makes a catfish chow…and trout chow….see if any local feed and seeds has it. Catfish are very messy and can need either large water changes (which defeats you purpose) or antibiotics….I would go with tilapia

          How many gallons you working with?

        • suyts says:

          Well, for right now, it’s probably about 20 gallons …. just guessing. But, again, this is just a small scale work to see if it can work on a much larger scale, which I suspect, would work better on a much larger scale than the smaller scale, for the fish. The plants will work on any scale, as far as I can see.

          Water changes might not be a problem for us because of the proximity to a river nearby. What is “tilapia”?

          Yeh, they’re messy, but, hardy creatures, which is why I liked what the kids picked to raise, but, I don’t know jack about fish other than how to catch and fry them!

        • Latitude says:

          ok….this really is a matter of scale
          With only ~20 gal, they need to use small fish (platy, swordtails, gourami, etc)
          Water changes defeat the purpose of using fish poop as fertilizer. The media you use to grow the plants is also the surface that bacteria attach to….that convert the fish poop to ammonia and nitrates for the plants

          Larger works best….small you can have too many fluctuations and end up killing the fish

        • suyts says:

          Right, understand and already thought about scale. I figure if we can force it to work on the smaller end, then, larger would be easier. And, yes, I believe the fluctuations are hurting the fish, right now. Kansas, right now, it gets down to the low 40s at night, and up to about 70 during the day ….. then it rains, and storms, and rains. The fish can’t move up and down as they would in the river, so we need deeper. Will try 100 gallon next, before we try to go real time. Plants, OTOH, are doing quite well! But, that’s the reason for catfish….. they’re a hardy critter!

        • Latitude says:

          Use a floating system that does not require a pump….

        • Latitude says:

          ..and use these guys, tilapia, tough as nails and good to eat

        • suyts says:

          Will pass on the good input!!! Thanks Lat!

  2. DirkH says:

    The prefix used in Germany is “Bio-“, sounds equally idiotic. But is actually the mutilated version of “biologisch-dynamisch”, which goes back to Steiner, the esoteric cult founder of Antroposophy, ancestor of Der Wandervogel, the hippie movement, the Green movement. He had this idea about how agriculture should be done, well, that’s how it all started.

  3. DirkH says:

    Twitchy currently has a fresh heap of leftist stupidity on display. I found this one the most hilarious. Boing Boing makes joke, alienates their fan base, memory-holes the affair and pisses on the people who defended them.
    http://twitchy.com/2015/04/17/hilarious-dumbaery-boing-boing-sneers-at-right-wing-lunatics-who-defended-them/

  4. larrygeiger says:

    One of my pet peeves. About the only non-organic that gets eaten is the gravel in a chicken’s craw. Or something like that. Hee hee. Fun stuff. This woman will tell you how to purge and cleanse and then read your fortune by looking at your iris:
    http://healthybliss.net/

  5. tom0mason says:

    So it’s organic, or whatever, but is it sustainable?
    I mean sustainable in the long term i.e. over the millennia?

    Just asking.

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