The Dims Alternative To The Disgrace Of America?

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Another, longer enduring disgrace.

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  1. Latitude says:

    I invested every penny I have in popcorn futures yesterday……..

  2. DirkH says:

    Looks like the Bushes are in the lead against the Clintons in the upcoming election.

  3. ThePhDScientist says:

    But yeah let’s elect Ted Cruz – he represents American values and has a great shot of becoming POTUS!! LOL

    Now back to reality…

    • DirkH says:

      What, OfA has collected enough money to pay you another 10 cents for another 100 comments?

    • Bruce of Newcastle says:

      Hello PhDS, long time no see.

      What do you think of Hillary running all her SecState emails from her own house server, then deleting them all when subpoenaed? Seems awfully illegal to me.

      The Hillary spoliation

      • ThePhDScientist says:

        Hello Bruce

        I would say this issue is certainly not so clear cut. Technically, it’s uncertain as to whether or not Hillary broke any laws by using her personal email to conduct all state department business and not a .gov email address. Legitimate cases could be made for either side. I certainly would agree it doesn’t seem very wise to do so.

        However, let’s not pretend that Hillary didn’t turn over her official emails. 55,000 of them were sent to the state department as requested.

        Now should Hillary have to comply with every Republican shit show aimed at trying to rummage through ALL of her personal conversations in order to generate false scandals as they’ve been doing since Obama took office…? No.

        • DirkH says:

          So, you have indeed not the slightest clue of IT security and you have never worked in a company where you had to use their mail system.

          Thanks for the confirmation of my worst suspicions.

          Oh and how does it feel in the Clinton’s intestines.

        • ThePhDScientist says:

          I’m talking about U.S. laws governing the secretary of states electronic communication requirements Dirk. We’re not talking about Wal-Mart here. Try to get your head out of Ted Cruz’s butt.

          Thanks

        • DirkH says:

          Also, if you want Hillary’s mails back, just write a polite letter to Putin. If the KGB was incapable of getting at these cleartext messages they’re not paying attention.

        • DirkH says:

          Phud, I am not talking about your laws (which your administration ignores anyway). I am talking about the non-existent security of Hillary’s home IT business. Of course you are not in a mental position to even understand what I’m talking about. Even your warmongers should at least be expected to maintain some secrecy amongst their Clinton-Bush-Brzezinski-Rockefeller gerontocracy, shouldn’t they.

        • Bruce of Newcastle says:

          She didn’t turn all of them over PhDS. There are certain (Nixonian?) time gaps. That is a very legally pregnant issue.

          The erosion of the public record is worrying: recall the Richard Windsor approach by the head of the USEPA. How many other public officials are evading the law like this?

        • ThePhDScientist says:

          Thank you Dirk for caring so much about the electronic security of Hillary’s emails! I know English is not your first language, but let’s see if you can stay on topic. Bruce had asked me about the legality of Hillary using her home email server to conduct government business – so yeah we are talking about US laws governing the legality of government officials using their personal email.

          But, you have fun with your straw man…

        • kim2ooo says:

          This is rich:

          Democrats – who’ve had their heads up the collective.. shifty butts of the Clintons for over 40 years… telling someone to get their head out of Ted Cruz’s butt.

        • ThePhDScientist says:

          Hi Kim! Angry that Ted Cruz wouldn’t stand a chance against Hillary because he doesn’t represent the American people or their values?

        • kim2ooo says:

          NOT A BIT!

          Why do you want me to be angry?

          Mr. Cruz is doing exactly what he should be doing…. energizing the base.

          Meanwhile, Democrats are getting the panty crusties with Hillary…huh? After 40 years of being lied to…

          it’s ALL they can garner out of their political base……….. SAD!

        • ThePhDScientist says:

          Unfortunate that “the base” consists of an ever shrinking population of middle age to senior white males. A dying demographic to be sure!

        • DirkH says:

          ThePhDScientist says:
          March 29, 2015 at 8:46 am
          “Thank you Dirk for caring so much about the electronic security of Hillary’s emails! I know English is not your first language, but let’s see if you can stay on topic. Bruce had asked me about the legality of Hillary using her home email server to conduct government business ”

          So you want to imply that it might be legal that a Sec of State circumvents the cybersecurity measures of the government.

          Were you born that stupid or did you acquire it later?

        • kim2ooo says:

          Of course, your base is shrinking.

          Look at the wringer this administration has put the Democrats through…protecting his [ Obama’s ] actions.

          Kathleen Stebellius…GONE!
          Barbra Boxer…. DONE!
          Lois Learner…. GONE!
          Nancy Poleski…. DONE!
          Harry Reid…… DONE!
          Holder………DONE!

          Susan Rice…. DISGRACED!
          Kerry……………..

          AND………….AND… AND

          Democrats should be learning blindly following ideologies…equal…. hazard minefields.

        • ThePhDScientist says:

          You forgot the Democratic base is far more diverse and more educated than the republican base. Try again. Ted Cruz continues a common them amongst republicans – fear. Fear the illegals, fear the gays, fear the non-whites. It’s pretty pathetic really, but makes for entertaining television. Always love those CPAC highlights – they’re golden material for Saturday Night Live!!!

        • kim2ooo says:

          You forgot the Democratic base is far more diverse and more educated than the republican base.

          HA HA HA HA!

          If that were true………. You wouldn’t lose all your arguments here.

        • ThePhDScientist says:

          Where up the butt of Ted Cruz?!? LOL come on Kimmoe be realistic…

        • kim2ooo says:

          ThePhDScientist says:

          March 30, 2015 at 3:21 pm

          Where up the butt of Ted Cruz?!? LOL come on Kimmoe be realistic…

          Ha ha ha ha!

          You try to sound like you understand realism… yet, you gave all your authority away – ridein’ Clintons crotch for over 40 years …is insanity.

    • suyts says:

      Ph, it’s been a while! Good to see you’re still among the living!

      Well, Cruz won’t be the only Repub running. But, he probably stands a better chance than most give him. But, that wasn’t the point of the post. I don’t know who the Repubs will nominate, there are plenty of other possibilities. I understand Rubio will be announcing very soon, as will Walker. Paul probably will pretty soon and Christie, and Perry at some point, as well. There will be a few others, too.

      As far as I can tell, if Hillary does enter the race (I’m not sure she will now), then it’s preordained that she’ll get the Dem nomination. Given the email debacle (regardless of the actual letter of the law it was in direct violation of the intent of the law), the influence peddling for her family, and the foreign nation gifting to her foundation, a vote for her is a vote for more corruption.

      Have we gotten to the point to where no one is unelectable? Is character of no consequence? Is it just a matter of whether or not the person has a D or an R next to their name? Or supports or is against one or two hot button issues?

      Personally, I think Hillary will lose, and lose big, regardless of her R opponent. Much of it would be from the natural swing of the American voters. Since Truman, they typically only give two terms to a party, though Bush Sr. had one after Reagan’s two. Add to that her recent controversies, couple with the fact that the Dem base doesn’t do “old familiar”, I don’t see her winning.

      • ThePhDScientist says:

        “Personally, I think Hillary will lose, and lose big, regardless of her R opponent. ”

        Well Suyts I’ve always admired your blind faith! 😉 I’ll agree with you on the natural swing of elections, but you give far too much attention to republican generated scandals, which are just as numerous and even more blatant throughout the Republican Party. Bridge gate?!? Average Americans don’t look at Hillary with anywhere the ferocity of republicans.

        Now let’s take Ted Cruz most republicans can’t stand him and he certainly makes democrats want to puke. An ivy educated elitist who rails against the establishment. Who cares far more about ideology than governing. LOL

        You go ahead and put Cruz up against Hillary! I’ve got 10 grand on that matchup. You in?

        • kim2ooo says:

          “Average Americans don’t look at Hillary with anywhere the ferocity of republicans.”

          TRUE!!!!!!!!!! AND that is what is wrong with the Democratic Party.

          IDEOLOGY OVER HONEST SUBSTANCE.

          You saw this with “Obama gave me a free phone”.

          Here’s the problem….. Obama gave away the store. The store is bankrupt 18 T dollars……….. AND THERE IS NO FREEBEE THAT HILLARY CAN GIVE AWAY!

        • suyts says:

          I’ll wait on the 10 grand bet. I did chuckle about the “ideology/governing” bit, given the current POTUS. Bridge gate was funny in a pathetic sort of way. I think more people will give more weight to a wiped maybe-legal email server than to a closed lane. FWIW, I don’t think much of Christy, and I won’t vote Repub if he gets the nomination. I agree, the establishment Repubs don’t like Cruz. But, he’ll enjoy a broad base of support from conservatives. And, that’s the question and challenge to Cruz. Can he get the moderate Repubs to support him if he wins the nomination? Can he get the independent vote? At this point, probably not. But, Cruz isn’t a stupid person. He’s got a year to work it out. BTW, though, I just got through having a couple of conversations with some family members from the border. Cruz will enjoy a larger Hispanic support than any other Repub candidate ever has. Perhaps not the majority, but, a much greater amount. But, then, Rubio will also, and Bush will have quite a bit too, because of his wife. Hillary? Prolly not as much as prior Dems.

        • Latitude says:

          Rubio is identified with Cuban…and for some reason so is Bush
          Cruz is the only one that will get a sizable vote of the Mexican hispanics, and don’t kid yourself, he is loved by Mexicans that have been here a while….they are not in favor of open borders

        • leftinflagstaff says:

          Yep, Cruz has about as much chance as the Repubs had of taking both Houses.

        • ThePhDScientist says:

          LOL what a silly tidbit to make it sound as if Cruz has any chance in hell of becoming POTUS. Everyone knows the Repubs have gerrymandered the districts enough to keep control of the house despite Democrats getting more popular votes. The senate was long projected to possibly flip in 2014 – non election years are always bad for democrats.

          No one, sans some Tea Party enthusiasts, think Cruz is palatable enough to become a president. The tea party will shout, cry, and deny reality . They’ll tell you a moderate conservative is the reason they lost the last election. But everyone knows an arrogant, ideological tea party type candidate like Cruz appeals to so few Americans they’d be blown out of the water before we even got to Iowa.

        • leftinflagstaff says:

          Arrogant ideology seems to now be a requirement for Presidencies.

        • ThePhDScientist says:

          Well of course Republicans believe that thought and science over faith and belief represents arrogant ideology.

          Just look at Mike Pence of Indiana. States got 80 HIV cases linked to IV drug use but his ideology won’t let scientifically proven needle exchange programs operate in the state. Then he passes gay discrimination legislation…But now he’s flabbergasted by the arrogant ideology of those people who don’t support his theocracy (arrogant ideology)?!?

        • leftinflagstaff says:

          Ah, Mike Pence, and gay discrimination. I figured that’s why you were back.

          Your hypocrisy is so much a part of you, you no longer even know its there. Like your own bad breath.

        • ThePhDScientist says:

          Haha yes Mike Pence that’s why I’m back….No actually I wanted to see how many of you were still living in fanstasy land predicting Ted Cruz was going to be the next POTUS. Like in 2014 when you only believed the conservative polls that Romney was winning in a landslide and you were all shocked with the final results.

          Pence is just the icing on the cake. It’s fun watching the tea party types claim small government and then use legislation to codify bigotry into their laws. Even funnier when they get blasted for it on the national stage. Wow does he look like a pathetic fool. I mean a hero to some on this board, but to the thinking public a complete bigot.

        • leftinflagstaff says:

          Well, if you’ve reversed your stance of the ugliest and bloodiest form of bigotry this planet has ever seen, then I’ll take your rants seriously.

        • ThePhDScientist says:

          Ugliest and bloodiest the planet has ever known. Are you referring to the Christian crusades?

        • leftinflagstaff says:

          As I said- your own bad breath. Nice chat ph

        • ThePhDScientist says:

          Hey you said ugliest and bloodiest! The crusades were certainly up here for ugliest and bloodiest, but if you’ve got other suggestions please provide numbers and cite sources!

        • leftinflagstaff says:

          I was just chatting with all the source anyone would need.

        • Jim Masterson says:

          I see that pH is suffering from paramnesia–as usual.

          Jim

        • Latitude says:

          Obama voted for that codified bigotry when he was a senator..and his DOJ defended it

        • ThePhDScientist says:

          Oh Lats if you’re not smart enough or unwilling to learn the key differences amongst these bills then what’s the point of talking?

        • Latitude says:

          …just following your lead

        • ThePhDScientist says:

          Well then I guess we just wait and see what changes the Republican bigots in Indiana are forced to make to their little law…

        • Latitude says:

          I hope none…

          …..either way, someone gets descriminated against

        • ThePhDScientist says:

          Haha I love that argument! Insisting on non-discrimination toward the public is now discriminating against Christians! LOL!

          How about you save the discriminating for your church and Klan meetings. Then everyone wins!

        • Latitude says:

          you should love it…it’s your argument

          being offended is a right…you can’t take that away

        • ThePhDScientist says:

          I guess we can never agree then huh Lats? I’ll always fight for simple measures like treating everyone in the public sphere fairly and not discrinating against one group or another.

          You’ll always feel that Christians should be able to do whatever they like to whomever as long as they can claim their religion made them do it…

        • kim2ooo says:

          “ThePhDScientist says:

          March 31, 2015 at 2:21 pm

          Oh Lats if you’re not smart enough or unwilling to learn the key differences amongst these bills then what’s the point of talking?

          You’re a daisy …

          Pray…tell us why the Federal law was written……… If you can.

        • ThePhDScientist says:

          Do I have to waste the time? Are you also not smart enough to read about the major differences in Pences law granting defense to all private citizens whether the government is a party to the proceedings or not?

        • kim2ooo says:

          “I’ll always fight for simple measures”

          HA HA HA HA! Now you are trying to sell yourself as “The simple man – with the simple plan”.

          Well. you got half of it right.

          Say PhD… can you point out in the Indiana Law RFRL where it mentions “CHRISTAINS by name?

          IT DOESN”T and YOU know it doesn’t… but just like the libtarded PhD of old……. you choose to be a dishonest broker.

          IT SAYS “RELIGIOUS” … including Muslims …etc………..

        • ThePhDScientist says:

          Hahaha you’re absolutely right Kimmie! How could I be so wrong. Pence passed this law intending to make it easier for Muslims to discriminate against white folks as a way to shore up their vote and earn additional street cred with the muslim-American base in the Republican Party! LOL

        • Latitude says:

          we can agree that discrimination is not fair…
          but it’s a fact of life

          we will not agree that picking and choosing one side is right

          who then decides?

        • kim2ooo says:

          ThePhDScientist says:

          March 31, 2015 at 3:45 pm

          Pences law granting defense to all private citizens whether the government is a party to the proceedings or not?

          Ha ha ha ha!

          BUT THAT is exactly why the bill was written…

          Here is a hint: Peyote – Native American – Government overreach

        • Latitude says:

          don’t we have better things to do with our time?
          This law could not be any more silly, stupid, and a waste of time….
          All a business has to say is “I can’t do it, I have a headache”….and all someone has to do is go to another business….I’ve got better things to do with my money and time than try to force someone to do something…..and I don’t want to give my money to someone that doesn’t want it in the first place…

          that would make as much sense as taking my car to the swimming pool supply…and demanding they fix it

          What a bunch of pussies we’ve raised in this country…

        • kim2ooo says:

          ThePhDScientist says:

          March 31, 2015 at 3:50 pm

          Hahaha you’re absolutely right Kimmie! How could I be so wrong. Pence passed this law intending to make it easier for Muslims to discriminate against white folks as a way to shore up their vote and earn additional street cred with the muslim-American base in the Republican Party! LOL

          Don’t be ignorant!!

          BUT I thought you libtards were concerned about the Gay – Lesbian HYPOTHETHICALS…..

          What’s the odds of Muslims giving gays a fair shake???

          BTW Arkansas JUST passed a RFRL law.

          [ You do know what a daisy is doncha? A blooming…… ]

        • ThePhDScientist says:

          Hahaha are you relishing Arkansas Kimmie!?! LOL

          Keep your 3rd world states with their lack of literacy and health care. The rest of us will stay here in the civilized world with less bigotry and fear of people who don’t look or love like us.

        • Latitude says:

          I’ve said this before….repeat

          If I opened a business and the only customers I wanted was black Ethiopian drag queens that smoke……it’s MY business

          If some white straight honky comes in…I have every right to kick his happy white ass out…and he has every right to take his money somewhere else

          There’s plenty of religions in this country…..gays can start their own, just like all the rest of them have….no one would even consider going to the Church of Scientology and demanding they give them a Jewish wedding…and that’s no different

        • ThePhDScientist says:

          And that’s why you’re not very bright…

          When you open a business you sell and profit from the public. You utilize public services to run and protect your business. As such the public requires some small and simple steps. Foremost among these are the safety and security of the public. Non-discriminatory practices are mandatory. No you can’t choose the color skin or the sexual orientation of those you rent or sell burgers to. Open up a private club if you want that right, but dont sell to the public.

        • kim2ooo says:

          ThePhDScientist says:

          March 31, 2015 at 4:10 pm

          <civilized world with less bigotry and fear of people

          HA HA HA Ha… YOU just had a irrational fear of a Hypothetical

        • ThePhDScientist says:

          Haha you don’t understand sarcasm! Reread my Muslim post.

        • DirkH says:

          Carry on like that and OfA will have to pay overtime.

        • Latitude says:

          and that’s what’s wrong with this country…too many people whining
          I’m sick and tired of people whining….too many people believe they are being discriminated against, when the truth is they have a choice…
          People have the choice to be flaming whining liberals….just exactly like they have the choice to be bigoted redneck crackers…

          I’m not for taking any of those choices away from them…..who decides?

          The public does not have the right to sue the Catholic church…because they won’t give them a Jewish wedding

          sounds like a bunch of whiny necrotic bedwetters…and I don’t care what someone’s orientation is, their skin color, religion or lack of……..

          life’s tough,,,, get one….

        • leftinflagstaff says:

          ‘I’m not for taking any of those choices away from them…..who decides?’

          All well said, Lat.

          Who decides? I guess those with enough bigotry in them to believe they have the right to.

        • leftinflagstaff says:

          ‘And that’s why you’re not very bright…’

          I keep forgetting that business owners are no longer themselves members of the public. And that they could never possibly provide more financial support than the average member of the public for those services. Nor could they ever employ people who then provide further support.

          They simply don’t do enough. They must also give up their conscience in favor of someone else’s.

        • ThePhDScientist says:

          Ok got that. If you own a business you can be free to discminate how you choose?! And what If your religion allows feral cat meat in your burgers? Do health code mandates constitute an undue burden on said business owners conscience?

        • leftinflagstaff says:

          Lol

        • ThePhDScientist says:

          I mean I’m sick of those liberals and their regulations. If a guy wants to increase his profit margins by using cat meat we should let him! I just won’t eat there and eventually the market will take care of it if enough people object to cat meat burgers!

        • leftinflagstaff says:

          Some of your best work.

        • ThePhDScientist says:

          Thank you 🙂 conservstive logic always provides a lot of fodder!

        • leftinflagstaff says:

          As opposed to the logic of ranting against feral cat meat, while supporting the termination of a human life.

        • ThePhDScientist says:

          A zygote is only a human life to those who erroneously believe God had a hand in the fertilization process.

        • leftinflagstaff says:

          The inevitable fall back on ‘science ‘ as the basis of your preferred choice of discrimination.

        • suyts says:

          Hmm, I realize that’s sarcasm, but, Ph, if a guy wants to cook cat burgers and someone wants to eat them, why would you or I care?

        • Latitude says:

          sounds like reparations to me…..
          and discrimination is fine, as long as you’re the one doing it…
          …which is exactly what the left has accused the right of doing

        • leftinflagstaff says:

          Yes, discrimination is fine as long as science is doing it. You know, that science that shows that the life of every member of our species did not begin as a zygote.

          Whether a god had a hand in it or not.

        • ThePhDScientist says:

          Far more zygotes are aborted spontaneously by Mother Nature than by man so there is really no need for small government conservatives to constantly try and regulate women’s vaginas.

        • Latitude says:

          ThePhDScientist says:
          March 31, 2015 at 3:33 pm
          I guess we can never agree then huh Lats? I’ll always fight for simple measures like treating everyone in the public sphere fairly and not discrinating (sic) against one group or another.
          ====
          and forcing photographers, florists, etc ??

          How silly and childish……for one thing damned if I would want a photographer, florist, or caterer to do my wedding that didn’t want to….it’s like those tolerent black people they caught spitting in white people’s food

          that’s your conundrum….how do you stop discrimination….and not discriminate?

        • ThePhDScientist says:

          No conundrum at all. You simply tell people if you run a business that sells to the public you must treat all members of the public the same.

        • ThePhDScientist says:

          While you’re on the topic have you all watched this piece of masterpiece theatre? Small government tea party types attempt to codify gay discrimination with their “religious freedom” law. (And yes depite the dramatics everyone knows what their intentions were and why this law came into being when it did).

          Then when forced to answer simple questions about their new law on TV the tea party type blabbers on like a bumbling idiot not being able to give a simple yes or no answer to a question he knew he would be asked!!!

          Honestly this is going into the highlight reel of best ever political interviews! It’s up there with Palin/Couric

        • leftinflagstaff says:

          Sure, Mother Nature kills us all eventually. Let’s let everyone in on that action.

        • ThePhDScientist says:

        • Latitude says:

          Small minority gay party types attempt to codify religious freedom with their “gay rights” law…

          I guess it just depends on what minority means………..

        • ThePhDScientist says:

          Why can’t the small government tea party types simply admit what they’ve done. You passed the law now go ahead and say it…”We small government tea party types believe in making gay bigotry legal so long as it is cloaked in the veil of religious freedom!”

          How hard is that?

        • leftinflagstaff says:

          C’mon, Ph… What’s the problem? You guys got your Roe v. Wade. You get to discriminate to death! At least give us a little say in our beliefs.

        • Latitude says:

          fine…..why can’t you liberal bedwetters say…we respect people’s religious beliefs…and are grown up enough to take our business elsewhere

          You want people to respect your beliefs….while at the same time, you are not respecting theirs

        • Latitude says:

          I don’t think you see the difference between the government making gay marriages legal….
          …and making the small Methodist church down the street preform gay marriages

        • suyts says:

          Ph, I’ve written a post on this particular subject ….. you’re welcome to chime in.

        • ThePhDScientist says:

          I don’t think you understand the difference between religious institutions and businesses that serve the public.

  4. kim2ooo says:

    “far too much attention to republican generated scandals,”

    If you could debate with any credibility…you might have something….. BUT statements like the above,,, credulous.

    Clinton’s OWN EVERY SCANDAL they are wrapped up in. No one forces them to get involved in them…

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2584309/Bill-Clinton-identified-lawsuit-against-former-friend-pedophile-Jeffrey-Epstein-regular-orgies-Caribbean-compound-former-president-visited-multiple-times.html

    • ThePhDScientist says:

      B_E_N_G_H_A_Z_I How many times did the republicans bring it up? How many hearings? How many Americans think it was a vicious scandal? Well if you existed in this bubble you’d think everyone – if you existed in reality you’d understand another Republican driven scandal exposed for what it was.

      Sorry Kimmie, when your heads up Ted’s butt you can’t pretend to speak from a position of clarity…

      • kim2ooo says:

        Do you think that Benghazi was handled with dignity by this administration?

        Didn’t you try to argue that Benghazi was because of a UTUBE? – I’M positive that I argued that it wasn’t…and that because of the anniversary… of 9/11 …this administration should have ANTICIPATED this attack…

        Clarity and credibility are not your strong suits.

        • ThePhDScientist says:

          “handled with dignity…”

          Im sorry was this you just admitting that Benghazi was not a grave conspiracy of the highest nature? No matter what republicans threw at it they just couldn’t get anything to stick with American public?

        • suyts says:

          Yeh, it was the long adopted “incompetence not malfeasance” defense. Time and again we’ve seen that defense in recent years. And, now we have a large portion of our population celebrating and arguing for Dim incompetence rather than allow them to accept responsibility. I don’t know, maybe it’s just me, but, I can’t believe there’s such a collective of supposedly intelligent people so inept at everything they try to do.

        • kim2ooo says:

          “threw at it they just couldn’t get anything to stick with American public?”

          Actually, that goes to the Democratic base………… 4 lives and no integrity – doesn’t phase them… it must be like you said… Democrats just are ignorant.

        • Latitude says:

          so inept at everything they try to do…..

          spot

      • Latitude says:

        countering a republican driven scandal….with a democrat driven scandal

        that’s diversified and better educated for you

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