Yeh, No Reason To Secure Our Borders And Actually Track People In The US ……. Ebola


CDC identifies first case on US soil

Every person who opposes secured borders and much closer scrutiny of foreigners in our country are a threat to this nation, and are working, either intentionally, or through some misguided concept, to harm the people of this nation. 

It’s past time for people to start calling the pinheads out, and making them explain why introducing diseases such as Ebola to the American public is a good thing, or, that their cause is more important than the health and lives of the American people. 

Make them explain why America should have to accept human traffickers, make them explain why America must accept drug mules.  Make them explain why cheap labor is so necessary as to allow terrorists to walk into this nation undetected.  Be it Dim or Repub, make these assholes explain why Americans must accept these things. 

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17 Responses to Yeh, No Reason To Secure Our Borders And Actually Track People In The US ……. Ebola

  1. Latitude says:

    Frieden added that while it is possible that someone who had contact with the patient could develop Ebola in the coming weeks, he has no doubt the infection will be contained….

    Doesn’t every cheezy horror movie start out the same way?

  2. copernicus34 says:

    Head of the CDC refused to answer whether or not the Ebola victim was a US citizen?

    So now we have the top health official in on the Administrations talking points for immigration? Some might that is a stretch, but one only has to ponder why a refusal to answer such a basic question? We seem to be letting in whomever, with no thought as to the potential damage it could cause. Copernicus’ spouse some t tonight; “it’s like they are intentionally trying to endanger us all”. She stays out of politics for the most part, but she is getting fed up with this. Think about it folks, why would the head of CDC refuse to answer that question? In fucking believable.

    • suyts says:

      Tell Mrs. Copernicus I had the same thought. …… Kill a few thousand Americans and we’ll have a credible vaccine and expedited. …… all paid for by you and me and the rest of us …. rabble exposure candidates.

      • copernicus34 says:

        Sorry for my language, I was particularly inflamed by this, still fuming this morning. I really just can’t believe it. Ebola coming to this country was predictable, for some reason, the authorities insist upon leaving the air routes open to West Africa. Really no reason to do this, and only indicates either overconfidence in this, or, as you stated, a desire to ‘have something happen’ so as to show the world how excellent our ‘medicinal’ product is….or something.

      • philjourdan says:

        Not possible. Obamacare will not allow anyone to recoup the cost of R&D.

    • cdquarles says:

      James, you were in the Army. Do you remember getting a bunch of vaccines and if you were stationed in certain, um, less than clean spots, given immune globulin? Guess what, folks, we have IG for Ebola. It is being mass produced via recombinant techniques *today* (remember the special Nicotiana plant 🙂 in the story of the recovering MD earlier?). You do know that we can reverse engineer a vaccine from the IG, if all else fails, don’t you? If you don’t, you’ve heard it here. [Side-bar back in the 80s some of the initial recombinant DNA work was developed to deal with HIV. While I didn’t work in that lab (the pathology labs I worked for did sickle cell anemia studies and cholesterol fractionation studies), we all knew about it for some big money came into the University and some high profile hires were touted at the time). I did get to play with the electron microscope as well as being the dark-room flunky :).

      • DirkH says:

        You are talking about antibodies. Problem is the mass production looks pretty expensive. That GM tobacco plant seems to be an idea to bring the cost down.
        Old way of producing them is via blood serum filtering of infected animals, or via cell cultures.

        • cdquarles says:

          That GM plant’s cell cultures have been used since the 80s/90s. It is expensive simply because purification of any biological source and sterilization is the expensive part. Ultracentrifuges have been around since the 40s. The main expense is the extensive QA testing required today. We don’t want to spread hepatitis or HIV or some other mutated virus, so the stuff is repetitively tested and sterilized (the final lyophilization requires critical point carbon dioxide).

        • DirkH says:

          Thanks for the info!

      • suyts says:

        Indeed, CD. I was the guy giving the vaccines. The military has a specialty job picked from medics. Any medic, under doctor supervision can give vaccines, but, some, very few, go on to be trained in to the “hows and whys and whats” of immunology. I trained under the best immunologists the military had.

        This is why you haven’t seen many posts on the Ebola virus, here. I’m not that concerned that it will spread in the US, and you nailed one of the reasons I’m not concerned. Ebola is too old for us not to already have a handle on it. However, if Ebola can find a pathway here, so then also, some other strange, exotic, newer critter find it’s way. One that we won’t have a handle on.

        Still, if one US citizen dies because of the incompetence and insistence of the lunatics to keep the welcome mat to all, regardless of what is coming in, then, they should be blamed for their deaths and held accountable.

        • cdquarles says:

          Indeed. We have a century or so of history here. That’s why there is a Tropical Diseases section in the NIH and in the DOD. That’s why there is a CDC&P (to give it its full name and you should visit Emory U and the CDC-P if you’re in Atlanta) and a Fort Detrick.

          Communicable diseases, especially epidemics, are a national security/defense matter. That we’ve gone off the rails, politically, is so frightening. It is like all of the late 19th, early 20th C learning (paid for by lives at times) is being tossed. The rot was obvious to me when the Hepatitis C then HIV things started in the mid/late 70s. Sound public health doctrine was nixed for political reasons.

          We must secure our borders. The next Islamic attack is likely to be biological. It would only need *one* Thyphoid Mary with the right infection. Ebola isn’t it. We’ve been studying it for decades. A mutated Ebola could be it, but I doubt it. It would take the emergence of a new virus (like the simian immunodeficiency virus crossing over to humans, some 50 years ago, in Africa due to local mores and medical practices). People need to know that viruses are one way that total genetic information never gets lost.

  3. tom0mason says:

    I’ve just read a cheery blog about international desease outbreaks. Not happy reading but he does make a very good point when he says –

    As a recent survivor of air travel to and from Scandinavia, I can attest to the absurdity of the security theatre in several major Canadian and European airports. (At Schiphol, a young Dutch guy patted me down with almost erotic zeal, which at 73 I found oddly flattering. The Finns at Vantaa didn’t find me attractive at all.)

    Nowhere, amid all the trays full of men’s belts and iPads, did anyone aim a high-tech thermometer at me. No one asked me to stick out my tongue and say “Ah.” I could have been crawling with fleas infected with Yersinia pestis; if I had, my cute Dutch pal would now be studying his buboes in some damn good Dutch hospital.

    Airport security for over a decade has obsessed over suicidal lunatics with exploding shoes, inflicting stress and humiliation on millions of ordinary people. It will take something like a bureaucratic upheaval to get the Dutch to quit copping a feel on septuagenarians and start taking temperatures.

    Guys like today’s anonymous Ebola case are far more dangerous than quartets of idiots with box cutters and a bad case of “Let’s Pretend.” Whoever today’s guy is, he’s the harbinger of many more Ebola bombs with the price of an air ticket out of Freetown or Monrovia.

    Oh and just to cheer you all up, his report from yesterday does say that the Russians believe they have contained their H5N1 bird flu outbreak. So no worries there then 😐

    • DirkH says:

      “Nowhere, amid all the trays full of men’s belts and iPads, did anyone aim a high-tech thermometer at me. ”

      There could have been a hidden hi res IR camera somewhere along the way; enough to spot people with increased temperature.

  4. kim2ooo says:

    CDC confirmation of the first U.S. case of MERS was also under an embargo.

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