Are The Numbers Important, Right Now? No.

So, today, we see this at Fox and similar things in other news outlets….


MARILYN TAVENNER, HEAD of the agency responsible for overseeing, apologized for the website’s glitches during a hearing on the implementation of ObamaCare — but repeatedly refused to disclose ObamaCare enrollment numbers, though she did not deny officials have the information.

Note it, and move on.  With the web site having all of the problems that it does, no one expects the numbers to reflect reality.  Don’t make the same mistakes the left makes.  Zerocare will be the gift that gives over and over again.  Let them wait for mid-November.  In fact, let them wait for the rest of the year. 

The point is, don’t hammer them, or make it a focus on this until the time is proper.  Come Jan 1, and we see even less than 5 million signed up, then that’s a huge win in the PR against Zerocare.  But, not, if we obsess about a few thousand, right now.  The notion, the promise behind Zerocare was that we were going to insure 20-30 million more Americans.  So, let’s keep that scale in perspective for the American people.  Don’t let the left lower expectations so much that it seems like a few million is an accomplishment. 

Yes, note that the administration won’t share the numbers, hit them on transparency, and then find another thing to laugh at the leftards about. 

The ultimate win against Zerocare is the net amount of people who are covered vs how many lost coverage, the total cost, not just to the federal government, but, the government + the costs to the states + the costs to private American citizens, and the decrease in the plans. 

This is something else which needs explored.  Yes, typically, more things are covered, such as 50 y/o males being forced to pay for the coverage of OB/GYN issues, but, beyond that, and other superfluous things most of us don’t need, what else is covered and what is lost?  Though anecdotal, I haven’t seen one example of someone’s deductible actually decreasing.  In fact, all I’ve seen is the deductibles going higher.  Higher deductibles means less total coverage.  That’s money out-of-pocket.

The next budget battle will be too soon to be able to condense this all down to a few lines.  So, in the mean time, we have to content ourselves with a multi-issue attack.  So, don’t dwell on just one issue which would allow team Zero to fix/misdirect/lie about what is happening. 

Right now, mock them about the web site.  Bring up the point that no one is signing up, but, keep the numbers vague and keep reminding people about the 30 million more, that we’re suppose to cover. and the costs and viability of the program.  Not just the costs of the premiums, but, continue to hammer on it, but, also the deductibles, and costs to the program and the states.  The Medicaid enrollees is huge!  This has, in fact, simply increased the entitlement rolls.  Over and over again, remind voters who refused to compromise on this issue.  Who was it that wouldn’t even talk about a delay.  And, then, the pain inflicted upon our working poor.  It’s a death by a thousand cuts the Dems have invited.  Simply oblige them.   

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15 Responses to Are The Numbers Important, Right Now? No.

  1. philjourdan says:

    Actually you missed the greater point. She could not tell them because she has not been told WHAT to tell them yet. It is clear they will not be close the the numbers, but when they report them, like the old soviet spacecraft landings, they will be right on target. Even when they land half way around the world.

  2. kim2ooo says:

    Come Jan 1, and we see even less than 5 million signed up, then that’s a huge win in the PR against Zerocare.

    This administration give us the real numbers??? HA HA HA HA! [ That was sarcasm you wrote wasn’t it? ].

    • suyts says:

      That’s my point. If we harp on this, we know they’ll make up the most fantastic numbers and half the population will believe it. We need to keep them off balance so they can’t focus on just one lie.

      • kim2ooo says:

        😉 aha there’s method to his madness… 🙂

      • suyts says:

        Yes, recall the debt ceiling issue. The Dems, by using a singular issue, decided to lie to the American people that we were risking default. Over and over again they repeated the same lie, and many Americans believed it. The timing over the numbers isn’t right, right now. To be sure, I’m certain if the numbers were known, it would be mock worthy, but, beyond that, have little impact in the political arena. We know if this suddenly becomes front page everywhere, the leftards would parade out a bunch of people excusing the numbers because of the web site. Wait to see if they can actually get the site going by the end of Nov, and then when that excuse is stripped, then focus on the numbers. After a bit, we should be able to find other “glitches”. It should be a rolling front, always moving, to where they can’t aim at a target.

    • philjourdan says:

      Must be. Suyts is not that naive.

  3. cdquarles says:

    The real test of how good your medical care system is survival numbers when faced with the worst conditions. Think 5, 10, 20 year cancer survival rates for the worst presentations, not so much for the stuff found really early. Cancers take years to develop and become symptomatic, excepting the most aggressive forms, for which months may be a good time frame.

    • cdquarles says:

      I am not saying finding things early enough to make the treatment tradeoffs worthwhile isn’t a good thing, but an excellent system does better with the worst illnesses than the lesser ones and does better with the easy stuff, too.

    • kim2ooo says:

      The real test is the “TREATED” numbers.

      You might have a card saying “Covered”……….. but are you “Treated”?

      • cdquarles says:

        True, but that would be a part of the medical system, not the ‘insurance’ system. That said, many do not know that the government ‘insurances’ are the worst payors (least amount and slowest to pay) and the most often to deny payment/coverage of specific treatments, particularly those on the bleeding edge. We will regret that bitterly. Yes, I am talking about Medicare, Medicaid, Champus/VA/Tricare. They are the worst folk to deal with.

        Also little known is that the government ‘insurance’ system have the power to retroactively deny payment of a claim and and use the False Claims Act to prosecute suppliers based on a retroactively denied claim (HealthSouth!).

      • philjourdan says:

        You have to be treated! It is the law.

        Just sign over your soul and wait 18 months.

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