More On The Antarctic Ice And Why It’s More Important!

This is just another illustrative way to show people the significance of the Southern Hemisphere ice and why in many ways it is much more important than the Northern Hemisphere. 

Look at where the extent is today in the south.

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Good heavens!!!!  It’s out there at 55 degrees south!!! 

Now, let’s conceive how that would be, if the extent was like that in the north …….

That would roughly be like having solid sea ice out to where the red circles are. 

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Images sans circles here.

And, would have entirely enclosed Iceland.  You’d be able to walk from Scotland to Greenland. 

Consider the implications in terms of albedo, angles of incidence, energy budgets, and death spirals. 

Most proclaimed climatologists aren’t very bright. 

Got grandbabies to go get!  BBS!

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36 Responses to More On The Antarctic Ice And Why It’s More Important!

  1. philjourdan says:

    You can’t walk from Scotland to Iceland?

    Damn! Better cancel that hiking trip.

  2. Latitude says:

    exactly…..if it was north…..it would be half of Canada and all of Alaska, under a solid sheet of ice

  3. tom0mason says:

    From Labrador to Scotland via Greenland and Iceland. Wow, get the snowcat ready!

    But seriously I’ve put a similar point to warmalarist and all I get is how the ice is sliding off the Antarctic, and how the Arctic has thin first year ice. Some true believers will be cold in their hovel before the relent.

    • suyts says:

      Yeh, they fell compelled to believe the nonsense about the Antarctic. They’ve no appreciation of how cold it actually is.

      • tom0mason says:

        Don’t know if you’ve heard of Erl Happ and Carl Wolk, they’ve done some WUWT posts before. They have a real interesting blog at
        http://climatechange1.wordpress.com/
        and their last entry on the Antarctic/ozone interaction is very interesting. How good it is I’m not sure but it feels better than the current ‘CO2 ate my Arctic’ theory.

      • suyts says:

        Yes, Happ is sharp. The ozone layer will be something fun in a few years. I think we’ll find that CFCs have a lot less to do with ozone than people realize. And then we can move to energy considerations. It should be a hoot. I’ll check out their Antarctic post in a bit!

        • cdquarles says:

          Indeed. Halides, organic or not, are ubiquitous in nature. Every forest fire makes them. Lightning makes ozone and nitrogen oxides. Sunlight makes and destroys ozone. Sunlight makes nitrogen oxides. Our knowledge of the system is so limited and uncertain, yet ‘scientists’ are so certain. Take the word of ‘scientists’ by faith, people, because they don’t believe in God (not wholly true) and they won’t lie to you (yeah right). A government paid scientist, especially one of Leftist ideology will willingly sell you down the river for a grant.

  4. daveburton says:

    At the south pole it’s not infrequently cold enough to freeze carbon dioxide.

  5. Lars P. says:

    Great post James! I bookmark it, it is good to remind the nutters when they start again with Arctic melting nonsense… They wIll be comming back next year in May -September…

  6. Scott says:

    Cryosphere Today is back up to date now that NSIDC is operating again. We’re seeing a positive anomaly for global sea ice area again. I wouldn’t be surprised to see it be the first October with a positive global anomaly in a long time. In recent years, the NH anomaly has been most negative in October, not September. I don’t have the SH dataset on my computer, but it’d be interesting to see when the last positive anomaly was in October. And I’m thinking we might see a positive anomaly for month as an average, LOL.

    -Scott

    • DirkH says:

      Something’s changed. October was friggin cold in Germany so far.

      • Scott says:

        Below average here too Dirk. Northern CO, USA. IIRC, the US was actually below avg last Oct (only month below average in US’s “hottest year ever”), but the Sept 10-Oct 10 average temp was 2 F lower this year than last according to my natural gas bill. And Steve’s map the other day for month-to-date October had us ~2 C below avg.

        -Scott

      • suyts says:

        Cold here in KS, as well. Heater kicked on already. I cried. ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

      • philjourdan says:

        Comes from lack of sunlight.

        • Doc says:

          yeah, and nothing to do with wind, jet stream, el Nino, heater temperature calibrations and age, computer data input vs. output, earth axis tilt, earth temperature cycles, storm cycles, sun storms, etc.

        • suyts says:

          Doc, sorry about the wait in moderation. You’re not approved for comments so, they’ll appear immediately. Two link limit.

          Welcome!

        • philjourdan says:

          Doc – Sorry, as you are a first time poster, you are not familiar with my style. I rarely use the /sarc tag, but many of my comments are very sarcastic. That one was. I will try to be more mindful to the infrequent posters.

        • suyts says:

          No worries, Phil, they’ll get used to it.

        • philjourdan says:

          But I feel we should ease them into it. ๐Ÿ˜‰

        • Latitude says:

          phil, you’re not acclimating a goldfish…
          …go for it!

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