I’ll have more on this later, but, I wanted to put this out there.
Like many, I’ve come to expect a sharp decline in the arctic ice starting about this time of year. But, this year, we keep waiting and waiting and in a relative manner, it keeps going the other way.
Now, this doesn’t mean it isn’t going to happen. Last year the sharp decline didn’t start to occur until about the early part of June.
And, as we can see, last year’s arctic ice was at times significantly more than this year’s. I’m paying a little closer attention to this year’s ice for a couple of reasons. One is because the global total of sea ice. It’s increasing, and I believe it will, if it hasn’t already, break the record for this century in days above the mean. This runs opposite of the supposed amplifying hypothesis for the polar regions. It’s not global if it’s not happening globally. The other reason I’m following a bit closer is because the patterns seem to be a bit different this year which seem to validate what many skeptics have said for years.
And lastly, I always find a bit of a sadistic pleasure in poking at the alarmists. 
It’s fun!
suyts space 
Be careful with the Arctic ice. Skeptics keep going back to it over and over again and lose pretty much every time. It’s a ridiculous tactic for them to take because the Arctic sea ice is probably the only area where observations have even met the predictions of the CAGWers…every other area shows no change or much less change than they say.
The second plot you show is the one to pay attention to. Even though the sea ice area & extent look very “nice” right now for the skeptics, last year’s version wasn’t much different and ended up with the skeptics getting giga-owned in August/September. This year’s pattern and ice distribution are certainly different than the past several years, but we really have no idea what that means (if anything).
-Scott
Right, I didn’t want to leave the impression I think the arctic ice is going to miraculously rebound to 1970s levels or anything like that. I’m just noting things.
Arctic ice is influenced more readily by more than just temperature. There is no land mass under it (like Antarctica), and so the “winds of change” affect it as well as how warm it is.
It could plummet in a week, with no rise in temperature – if the winds blow a certain way.
Yes, that’s the part I was alluding to as validating what many skeptics have said.
Scott says:
May 31, 2013 at 12:19 pm
“Be careful with the Arctic ice. Skeptics keep going back to it over and over again and lose pretty much every time.”
What I like about skeptics and what makes it the only acceptable position to me is that we look at the data. If it turns out the theory of CO2AGW is right because the predictions of the theory hold then so be it.
If ONLY the arctis is predicted correctly by the warmists while all other predictions fail then the theory is junk. And at the moment it is junk.
With Natural Variability being what it is, you know….variable; it is a wonder how the climate seem sto be cooperating with the skeptics in almost every aspect. If the alarmists lose the Arctic, then the gig is up I think. Still a whole summer to go, but this year looks a little different than last year, especially if there is no massive Arctic storm to contend with.
OT. Not sure how much drought/abnormally dry I can take between
Scammon/west mineral. SE KS
Ponds r full+ cant camp :((
lol, rg, what are you doing in my neighborhood? You trying to get my monster pit fish? 😀
Yeh, there’s no place to camp. I was going to write on their stupid “drought” map the other day. We’ve got another storm heading this way. Not sure about the water level, but, I saw the animals lining up two by two if that means anything.
Before I can carry on a conversation with u
Gannon or Grbac!
LOL, I always thought they should have stuck with Gannon. Elvis performed well, but, he never got to the dance. Gannon did…… but, with the Raiders. That takes me back to classic Chiefs directionless football we’ve come to know and love. Schottenheimer was a good coach, but he sucked in the playoffs.
YOu should hire Norv Turner then. He takes a 14-2 team to 8-8, but he does well in the playoffs!
You have chosen…
… Wisely! 😉
I’m already ready for football season. But, it’s months away. 😦 The Chiefs new QB should be an interesting fit. If they can protect him they’ve got themselves a gem!
Can I say!
1950’s
Sorry. My 1950 reference wwas for the thunderstorn that just rolled through.
Why r we freakun
Out for every storm
LOL, We don’t, it’s just an annoyance. Happens this time every year. Was offline for a bit, how’d OKC people come out?
Shoot, nvmd.
Have you seen that at the other side of the globe, in New Zealand, it’s got cold real early?
http://www.3news.co.nz/Athol-farmers-get-through-big-snow-dump/tabid/423/articleID/299588/Default.aspx