Fiscal Cliff Avoided? President And Senate Agree To Bury Head In ……… Sand.

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Update below!

How stupid.  How irresponsible.  How pathetically impotent are these people?

The Senate passed a bill to avoid the fiscal cliff and it is now going to the House for consideration.

Essentially, there are two considerations of the fiscal cliff.  Taxes and spending cuts.

The taxes…… this can be seen as a victory or a loss for both sides.  They’ve agreed to raise taxes on people making above above $450,000/yr.  At this point, this is the best the Repubs could hope for as far as taxes go.  However, this came because of a compromise to certain cuts which were suppose to happen.  For us who are aware of the energy stupidity and cost to the US, apparently, we’re going to extend our green-energy programs.  But, they didn’t address all of the cuts which are suppose to happen.  In fact, they didn’t address most of them.

Officials said the two sides agreed to postpone the cuts by two months, in exchange for a 50-50 mix of revenue increases and spending cuts. Of those cuts, half would come from defense and half would come from other budgets.

This ensures more political theater shortly.

Here’s what the House should do and some will probably try to do.  They should agree in principle to the measures.  Then, they should try to trim some of that crap out, like the green energy programs.  They need to make sure they don’t overreach.  They need to keep in mind if they cut too much, the Senate will reject it and we’ll all get tax increases, except, of course, for the people who don’t make much anyway.

As to the proposed 50/50 mix of revenue increases and cuts.  That’s vacant and entirely unacceptable.  We’re currently spending $1 trillion more than we’re taking in.  So, in order to balance the budget, we would have to have $500 billion in tax increases.  We simply don’t have that to give and still have a viable economy.  We don’t really have one now.  Of course, the aim isn’t to balance the budget, which makes one wonder what the aim is…… I mean other than impoverishing more people and to eventually bankrupt this nation.

So, for the House, cut what you can.  Make sure the tax increases don’t hit most of the taxpayers, and then reject whatever is to happen in two months.  This is the best conservatives can hope for in the short term.  That is to say, minimize the damage Obama wants to do to this nation.

However, House conservatives need to understand the fight doesn’t end there.  This would be the moment to start a real discussion about our fiscal shortcomings and irresponsibility.  Make the case before it becomes the next political issue.  Make then case then make it a political issue.  Dumbasses.  When you wait until after the Dems have already made their talking points, you lose.  GET AHEAD OF THE POLITICAL GAMESMANSHIP!!!  Make the case to the American people first.  The overwhelming majority of the American people don’t want to see this nation ruined.  They’ve just been horribly misinformed by the few people, such as Barry Zero, who wish to see this nation ruined.  Okay, the jury is still out on Zero.  He may be one of those misinformed creatures who is too stupid to understand the ruinous nature of his advocacy.  With leftists, it’s difficult to ever really know where the point of their lack of intelligence ends and their malfeasance begins. 

This is the way forward.  Live to fight another day, then bring the fight to the lunatics!!!  There is no time for complacency.

UPDATE!!!

I’ve just got an email from John Droz.  It isn’t a personal one, it’s just one of those ‘being on the list’ ones.  I don’t think he’ll mind me reproducing it here.  I’ll put this to ‘great minds ….’  As mentioned, the Dems through in the extension of the green garbage.  I don’t think the administration is committed to these, so the House can probably get them out.  Here’s what you can do……

Sorry to bother you on a holiday, but from what we understand, the US Senate has just passed a bill that includes a provision to:
1) extend the wind PTC for one year,
2) substantially relax the conditions for what qualifies.
The specifics are below. Both parts are unacceptable.
The qualification words (part 2) are particularly pathetic as “under construction” is undefined. It will likely be interpreted as “some level of approval” has been given to proceed, or that some access road to a wind project has been staked out.
We have one last chance to stop this. If you want to kill the PTC, please make ONE phone call to John Boehner’s office, immediately. Call his office directly at (202) 225-6205 and simply leave a message.
Use your own words, but the gist of it is that some Section 407 provisions of HR8 are completely contrary to our legislators repeated statements that they want fiscal sensibility to reduce our deficit — specifically the extension of the Wind PTC, and the redefining of what qualifies for the wind PTC. Why would Mr. Boehner support a $12+ Billion dollar taxpayer hit that is a net jobs loser???
If you also want to call your own House Representative, that wouldn’t hurt. The Congressional switchboard number is 1-866-899-9078. {Note that this will NOT connect you to Boehner’s office!}
Thank you for your help here with this most important matter.
regards,
john droz, jr.
———————————–
H.R.8 —
SEC. 407. EXTENSION AND MODIFICATION OF CREDITS WITH RESPECT TO FACILITIES PRODUCING ENERGY FROM CERTAIN RENEWABLE RESOURCES.
(a) PRODUCTION TAX CREDIT.—
(1) EXTENSION FOR WIND FACILITIES.—Paragraph (1) of section 45(d) is amended by striking ‘‘January 1, 2013’’ and inserting ‘‘January 1, 2014’’.
(3) MODIFICATION TO DEFINITION OF QUALIFIED FACILITY.—
(A) IN GENERAL.—The following provisions of section 45(d), as amended by paragraph (1), are each amended by striking ‘‘before January 1, 2014’’ and inserting ‘‘the construction of which begins before January 1, 2014’’

 

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18 Responses to Fiscal Cliff Avoided? President And Senate Agree To Bury Head In ……… Sand.

  1. Latitude says:

    Wasn’t this the president that campaigned telling us how irresponsible “WE” had been with our credit cards, mortages, savings, etc?

    …If I ran my house like this, we would be out on the street

    • suyts says:

      It’s disgraceful. This is what they came up with after a year and 1/2? There’s no chance to get anything meaningful done with this administration. Politics over country wins again.

      • Latitude says:

        I don’t totally agree with that…
        I was the repubs “compromising” that got us in this mess…
        Bush went how many times…..8-9…something like that….just on Social Security….everyone was screaming about lending and the housing market…..democrats were calling them names and at the same time, not passing a budget

        It not politics over country, it’s democrats and the media over country

      • suyts says:

        Well, yes, that’s what I was referring to. For the Repubs, they just play it stupid. There are many Repubs that have the right idea, they just don’t make the arguments well enough. They sit back and react as opposed to doing what is necessary. They have to get ahead of the Dem/LSM machine. But, they never do!

        • Latitude says:

          The argument they never made…..which, as you know, drove me crazy….
          …was not the argument of cutting entitlements

          The argument they never made is if we don’t put these kids to work….there’s going to be no entitlements for anyone…..the opposite valid argument was put as many people to work, paying taxes, and you can afford all the entitlements you want

          But the stupid republicans choose to argue that the losers are draining this country…
          ….how to make friends and influence people

        • suyts says:

          Yes, they make the wrong arguments to win the arguments! They have to learn to put things in a positive light and message. Instead of complaining about the people who drain our resources, talk about how positive it would be to have less people draining and more people productively working. If you and I can see this, how come the stoopid Repubs can’t?

  2. tckev says:

    POLITICS, n. A strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles. The conduct of public affairs for private advantage. — Ambrose Bierce

  3. DirkH says:

    Token deal makes markets happy. Yay for more free Dollars!

    Very expectedly so.

  4. kim2ooo says:

    Of course, the aim isn’t to balance the budget, which makes one wonder what the aim is

    the White House staff is saying that getting the GOP to break their tax pledge is, “One of the most consequential policy achievements of the last couple of decades.”

    http://www.redstate.com/2013/01/01/house-republicans-dont-play-the-game/

    xx
    If they can’t kill PTC —Put it back on them……? LIKE: Attach rider for Cops in Schools? This way when gun legislation comes up by Democrats….

    In short: Get IN the game OR get OUT!

  5. Jim Masterson says:

    I received this comment in an email:

    Hostess Bakery plants shut down Friday due to a workers’ strike. It was split up. The State Department hired all the Twinkies, the Secret Service hired all the HoHos, the generals are sleeping with the Cupcakes and the voters sent all the Ding Dongs to Congress.

    Jim

  6. kim2ooo says:

    THE PAYBACK:
    it seems Hollywood’s rigorous backing of President Barack Obama and his Democrat peers in the waning months of 2012 paid off.
    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2013/01/01/hollywood-loophole-fiscal-cliff

  7. kim2ooo says:

    SSI [ Let’s call it for what it is ] for Puerto Rican Rum?

    It’s in there according to http://us2.campaign-archive1.com

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