The Ad Which Is Making Team Obama Cry……… Foul



It isn’t like the ad accusing Romney of killing a lady with cancer.  That was blatantly false.  This ad is 100% true.  Obama did, in fact, take GM and Chrysler into bankruptcy.  And, he insisted that Chrysler be sold to the Italian auto company Fiat.  These facts are incontrovertible. 

The controversy arises at the end of the ad where it states that Chrysler will build Jeeps in China.  After the ad, Fiat protested and said that they are not going to do so.  So, the case is closed, right?  Fiat says that’s not going to happen, so the ad is false.  Err, uhhmm….. no, not exactly.  A simple Google search reveals some painfully obvious truths.  Let’s look to Bloomberg.  No, not the soft drink hating, buttered popcorn loathing little tyrant of a mayor of NY City, but the news media Bloomberg.

This ran before the ad came out.

Fiat Says Jeep Output May Return to China as Demand Rises

Fiat is in “very detailed conversations” with its Chinese partner, Guangzhou Automobile Group Co. (2238), about making Jeeps in the world’s largest auto market, said Mike Manley, chief operating officer of Fiat and Chrysler in Asia. Chrysler hasn’t built Jeeps there since before Fiat took control in 2009.

“The volume opportunity for us is very significant,” Manley, who is also president of the Jeep brand, said in an interview at Chrysler’s Auburn Hills, Michigan, headquarters. “We’re reviewing the opportunities within existing capacity” as well as “should we be localizing the entire Jeep portfolio or some of the Jeep portfolio.”

Chrysler, which entered an alliance with Turin, Italy-based Fiat as part of its U.S. government-backed bankruptcy, is relying on growth in China to counter weakness in Europe’s auto market. The automaker is targeting 500,000 annual sales outside North America by 2014, more than triple its overseas deliveries in 2009.

Chrysler currently builds all Jeep SUV models at plants in Michigan, Illinois and Ohio. Manley referred to adding Jeep production sites rather than shifting output from North America to China.

The ad doesn’t state anything other than they will build Jeeps in China.  In spite of Fiats protests, it seems pretty clear that they will.  The COO of Fiat and Chrysler in Asia, the president of the Jeep brand says they’re in talks to do exactly that.  Any self-appointed, alleged “fact checker” who states otherwise is a biased partisan in the tank for Obama.  

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19 Responses to The Ad Which Is Making Team Obama Cry……… Foul

  1. philjourdan says:

    The liberal lies will play to their base. But at least intelligent people can discern the truth as you have done.

    • suyts says:

      Thanks Phil. Once again, I underestimated the depths LSM would sink to. I was going to post on this 2 days ago, but I thought it wasn’t going to be an issue because the above was so easy to find. Wrong again, the LSM simply spews their lies convincing the doltish that Romney was untruthful.

  2. kelly liddle says:

    I am curious what proportion of manufacturing jobs in the US are things like Steel and Auto. I suspect the number would be very small but also fairly highly concentrated and have major effects locally but almost no effect nationally if the employment in this halved.

    “No, not the soft drink hating, buttered popcorn loathing little tyrant of a mayor of NY City, but the news media Bloomberg.”
    Thats a good line. I actually like the financial media and find that generally it has little bias unlike the popular media outlets which tend to have biases in both directions depending on the outlet.

  3. ThePhDScientist says:

    GM, like Chrysler, refutes Romney’s auto industry ad

    For the third time in a week, GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney and the auto industry are at loggerheads, this time over a Romney radio ad implying that GM and Chrysler are expanding production in China at the cost of American jobs.

    The ad claimed that “Under President Obama, GM cut 15,000 American jobs, but they are planning to double the number of cars built in China, which means 15,000 more jobs for China.”

    The accusation drew a dismissive response from a GM spokesman, who explained, “We’ve clearly entered some parallel universe during these last few days. No amount of campaign politics at its cynical worst will diminish our record of creating jobs in the U.S. and repatriating profits back to this country.”

    The ad further claimed that “Chrysler plans to start making Jeeps in, you guessed it, China.”

    Chrysler CEO Sergio Marchionne refuted Romney’s comments in an email sent yesterday to Chrysler employees: “Jeep production will not be moved from the United States to China,” Marchionne wrote, touting Chrysler’s recent production expansions in America.

    It was not the first time Romney claimed that Chrysler was shifting production to China, nor was it the first time Chrysler rebuked Romney’s charge.

    When Romney told an Ohio audience last week that “Jeep, now owned by the Italians, is thinking of moving all production to China,” Chrysler colorfully waved away the charge.

    “It is a leap that would be difficult even for professional circus acrobats,” wrote Chrysler spokesman Gualberto Ranieri in a blog post. “Let’s set the record straight: Jeep has no intention of shifting production of its Jeep models out of North America to China.”

    Chrysler’s wry dismissal did not stop Romney from repeating the claim in an ad warning that “Obama took GM and Chrysler into bankruptcy and sold Chrysler to Italians who are going to build Jeeps in China. Mitt Romney will fight for every American job.” called Romney’s claims “flat wrong,” explaining, “It’s misleading to suggest that Chrysler’s decision to expand into China will cost U.S. jobs — especially after the company has said it would have no impact on its U.S. operations.”

    The fact-checking website cited a report from Bloomberg that Chrysler was mulling “adding Jeep production sites rather than shifting output from North America to China.”

    Romney’s incentive to tarnish the credibility of President Obama’s auto bailout is clear – his electoral fortunes largely depend on his showing in midwestern manufacturing states like Ohio and Michigan with a large auto industry presence. If he can convince voters there that the auto bailout did more harm than good, he will stand to benefit.

    But that doesn’t mean the automakers have to play along.


    • kelly liddle says:

      Where you lose the argument is when you introduce who claims the ads are flat wrong. Technically they are not they only imply things. What is being implied is highly misleading so should just leave it at “highly misleading” (or for the partisan hacks call Romney a because the accusation “flat wrong” is in itself highly misleading unless it is stated that what is being implied is flat wrong which would mean you are implying something that did not by only quoting those 2 words out of context.

    • philjourdan says:

      The problem with you and your sources is that the primary sources and the Ad demonstrate your lies. The ad did not say they were moving 15k jobs to china. It said GM has lost 15k jobs in the US, and is now building cars in China – both factually true. If you cannot understand English (we know the Obama administration cannot), that is your problem, but it does not make the ad false. It is factually correct.

      And Fiat – the OWNER of Chrysler (you would know about owners since Kim is yours) has a press release where it STATED it was going to start making Jeeps in China. So I would suggest you and the flunky of Chrysler in America – take it up with him since neither of you appear to know what the company is doing. For you, that is merely status quo. For the American CEO of Chrysler – well we can see what a government bailout buys in the way of talent.

      Lying about an ad to refute it is called building a strawman. Something you do constantly, but are unfamiliar with the term given your limited cranial capacity.

    • suyts says:

      Ph, did you read the link I provided? Did you read the post? Did you watch the ad?

  4. kelly liddle says:

    oops after Romney should have “a protectionist xenephobe)”

    • suyts says:

      Kellly, please. Romney isn’t a xenophobe any more than Obama is with their auto protectionist rhetoric.

      • kelly liddle says:

        I know that but political campaigns are not supposed to let the truth in too much. Suyts I would comment though you have used fairly strong rhetoric against Obama at times. I think exaggeration will do harm to your cause and that of PHD. I actually consider you both right separately or together at times depending on the issue and also both wrong at the same time on other issues from my personal and foreign perspective. I consider it a pity that this election in my opinion is not about the real issues as I see them from afar. In a way I don’t claim to know what the answers are in the US as changing government systems is very difficult and in some cases the rot as it could be put started 50+ years ago then that department grows and grows until now it is part of the furniture accepted by both sides of politics. Some of your problems seem obvious but solutions not so obvious in a democracy. Of course Aus has an overlap of the same basic problems especially red and green tape of late.

      • suyts says:

        Naw, the solutions are easy. I’ve provided them.

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