It’s for their own good. Sure, there’s minor inconveniences like the loss of proper representation and arbitrary regulations imposed without the consent of the people. But, other than that, what’s the downside?
The President’s press secretary, Jay Carney, has said that he welcomed the Prime Minister’s call for Britain to remain in the European Union, adding that the US believed the UK was stronger for being in the EU, and the EU was stronger for having the UK as a member.
I’m not sure about the backwards thinking on this. More from the BBC…..
The White House doesn’t care about the EU’s internal organisation, and Europe is hardly its biggest concern anyway, but Mr Cameron’s promise is definitely an unwanted irritation.
Europe is hardly our biggest concern? Well, no, not all of Europe. But, for most in America, I think Western civilization is of a large concern. At least, it should be.
Assistant Secretary of State for European affairs Phil Gordon has been unusually blunt. He is publicly saying that referendums could turn countries inwards.
“We have a growing relationship with the EU as an institution, which has an increasing voice in the world, and we want to see a strong British voice in that EU. That is in America’s interests. We welcome an outward-looking EU with Britain in it,” he said.
President Obama repeated this view in a phone call to Mr Cameron.
I can’t think of a more insidious way to depreciate the special relationship we have with Britain than to dilute their voice with other members of the EU.
Each group of people are unique. The EU cannot speak for all without suppressing many. Indeed, the EU lends a voice to the few, while muting the many.
Has the individual become so irrelevant that unique societies are no longer deemed worthy of a voice?
The success or failure of the EU, in the eyes of world leaders, is an harbinger of things to come. I don’t wish this on my children nor grandchildren. I would “die in the last ditch” before I see this obscenity happen in the US. Truth be told, I don’t wish this on anyone.
it’s really hard to have a one world government when a big gun jumps ship…..
and with them out, the rest of the EU can continue to do even more stupid things
Yeh, the UK is on the fence and they’ll have to either jump in or jump out. I think if it actually ever comes to a vote, they’ll jump out. But, I’m skeptical that it ever will.
If the UK has any sense they would leave the EU, clean-out the green agenda restraints on their economy, built power plants for cheap energy, and get on with getting the debt down and productivity up. Then start reducing the welfare state, thus reducing the tax burden from all UK subjects.
They owe it to the future generations.
“I would “die in the last ditch” before I see this obscenity happen in the US.”
I would actually argue it is happening but on a slightly different level (in Oz also). That of the Federal Government taking control off the states. The population of the US is larger than the EU and much more diverse than any other individual western country so this is a serious issue for the US and good governance in my opinion.
kelly liddle says:
February 25, 2013 at 4:02 am
“The population of the US is larger than the EU ”
No; EU is bigger than 500 million.
ok I am wrong, I am think it used to be going by the countries with the currency union maybe 10 years ago but then again maybe I am completely wrong.
We got all of the Warsaw pact satellites, that’s why.
Well, it is true our federal govts are overreaching and usurping power. But, that’s not really what I’m on about with the EU. It is the governance. The EU has several governing bodies. Only one is democratically elected. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Political_System_of_the_European_Union.svg The EU rules by bureaucratic morass with very little representation of the people.
My quote about dying in the last ditch was placed to stir our British friends patriotism, a quote from William III.
Suyts
So you reckon that as bad as our Federal governments may be the EU bureaucracy is potentially much worse as it is not elected.
I reckon that it is worse. But, there’s more to it. As bad as our federal governments are, they are ours. And the blame is squarely on the people of our countries. I despise my federal government, but it is America’s choosing. The same can be said for Australia’s governance. We did this ourselves, and we can correct this. Not so for the EU. Personally, I don’t believe the Brits will ever get to vote.
You have at least in theory the rule of law and democracy. The EU is constructed rather differently. Actually no clean separation of powers. Even Social Democrat Ur-chancellor Helmut Schmidt complained about that. Just look how they rammed the Lisbon treaty down the throat of people who voted against it, let alone the ones they didn’t even ask.
Your basic premise is correct – even if you forgot the Warsaw Pact nations. It is happening in the US – they are dropping the S at the end.