Sometimes, it gets exasperating for me. It’s like arguing with a recording. Long time compadres of the climate wars would recall a time when I was a regular commenter at WUWT. This blog and other interests have kept me from commenting very much over there of late. That, and the fact that there is nothing new from the warmista. The argument is over, and the warmista have lost. About the only ones who haven’t realized it yet, are the warmista and the soon to be disappointed cleptocrats.
Still, I do try to keep up with the goings on at WUWT. So when Chris Monckton had a post over there, I thought I’d read the comments. Time was, a Monckton post would bring out some very challenging and thought provoking warmista comments.
Sigh, not anymore. It was an excellent post, and well worth the read, but the comments….. well, there’s a lot of them. Many are typical of skeptic comments, a few quibbling about the impact solar variance has on our temps and energy balance, others giving props to Monckton, etc…..
But, the quality of the warmista comments is shameful!!! There’s only about 3 or 4 warmists commenters on that post. Usually, by the time I get around to reading something insipidly stupid in the comments, it’s already been responded to. And, sometimes, I decide it isn’t worth my trouble.
The thing which is irking me today, is that the arguments of the warmista haven’t changed! It doesn’t matter that they’ve been thoroughly refuted and debunked, like a horrible recording they just keep repeating the mantra as if nothing has been said or discovered about their talking points.
The handful of alarmists, once the snark is removed offered almost no content and what little they did, had already been destroyed.
For instance, one pinhead decided to pipe in about what good global temp coverage NOAA has. The commenter said, “I suggest you familiarise yourself with the work of the NOAA, we’ve got pretty good global temperature records going back the 1850′s and detailed country records well before that.”
Hadely’s rendition of the same idiocy. Source
It’s such an incredulous assertion, no one should have to regard it. However, this is what got us to where we are in the first place, so I’ll repeat for the umpteenth time how stupid this assertion is. The lunatic alarmists can claim whatever they wish, but it doesn’t change historical reality. It turns out, the Siouan nations, simply weren’t that good at recording their temperatures. It may have had something to do with the lack of thermometers. Coincidentally, the same difficulties were had in several other places around the world. Little places like South America, Africa, central Asia, and the like. Never mind the whole big bloody oceans around the world! In the 1850s, we probably had less than 10% global coverage and it wasn’t evenly distributed. Anyone believing we could derive a global temp average from thermometer readings from the 1850s is either a serial liars or completely ignorant of history. (Deriving an energy balance equation from our temps is another form of dishonesty, but of a different sort.)
In a similar comment, but, from a different commenter, we get the oft repeated lie ….. “We have ocean heat content data showing the planet gaining heat during the last decade at twice the rate of the two previous decades.” —- What made that comment so absurd, was that Monckton, in an attempt to clarify some things commented about this.
Mr. Neven asks about the 3000 automated bathythermograph buoys I mentioned. These are the Argo buoys, first deployed in earnest in 2006. There are now 3674 of them, though the full complement was originally 3000. They are run by the ARGO project, to which they report autonomously by satellite every so often. Between them, they have now taken more than 1 million temperature and salinity profiles at various depths up to 2000 [feet]. This quantity of profiles sounds impressive, but – as Willis Eschenbach has pointed out in an earlier posting – it is the equivalent of taking a single profile at a single location in the whole of Lake Superior less than once a year.
Though the ARGO project has insufficient resolution to be useful, it has a greater resolution than any previous system of measurement. What it shows, according to Dr. David Evans, who has analysed the data, is that the rate of increase in ocean heat content is four and a half times less than the models had predicted.
This information is easily verifiable. I won’t bother boring readers with the details. The buoys started to be deployed a few years prior to 2006, but that’s when they achieved their coverage goal. But, the point is ARGO is insufficient, but it’s much better than anything preceding it. There really wasn’t anything preceding it. Sometimes, they tied a rope to a boat with a sensor at the end and took a temp reading at a certain depth that way. There were a couple of other techniques, but they weren’t uniform, the coverage was horrible, and irregular. Still, the commenter was undeterred. We have no idea what the Ocean Heat Content was 30 years ago.
What is it about the warmista? Do they honestly believe that skeptics are as stupid as they are? Or are they simply repeating a lie in hopes that one or two readers will come to believe this nonsense if the lies are told often enough? It seems like in the past I would have left a nice, and patient comment explaining these things, but it seems for now, I just don’t have the patience for cordial dialogue with these nutters.