Given Romney’s pick, I thought it appropriate to post this video of Ryan’s exchange with Geithner.
Geithner states that team Obama don’t have a plan to control our spending, but they just don’t like Ryan’s. So, what happened in the aftermath? Nothing. The Whitehouse refused to work with Ryan to get a reasonable budget that protected our present and future seniors. Then claimed Republicans were being unreasonable.
This is the Democrats view of compromise and bipartisanship.
Today, he stated……
Ryan accused the Obama team of being “more worried about their next election than they are about the next generation.” He blamed Obama’s “misguided policies” for the economic rut the country’s been stuck in.
“No one disputes that President Obama inherited a difficult situation. And, in his first two years, with his party in complete control of Washington, he passed nearly every item on his agenda. But that didn’t make things better,” Ryan said. “In fact, we find ourselves in a nation facing debt, doubt and despair. …
“Whatever the explanations, whatever the excuses, this is a record of failure.”
Read more: here.
This move should turn the conversation towards policy, where the national discussion should be.
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Romney, Ryan, and Recovery!!!
OR Here is a slogan “American needs a good R&R” or “It’s time for some R&R”
Yes, if enacted Ryan’s budget policies would preside over the largest transfer of wealth ever in US history! Taking what little the poor and middle class have left and handing it over to the rich.
Under the Ryan budget the government will be so starved of money in 30 years they won’t be able to pay for food inspections or highway maintenance. What did the plan call for again? Just 3.75% of GDP spent to run the entire government sans Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. And since defense generally compromises at least 3% of the budget and Ryan has made NO plans to trim the ridiculously bloated defense budget, so that means all government functions are run on 0.75% GDP.
Yes, I’m quite excited for America to find out about this relatively unknown bagger. Think most Americans are going to share Paul Ryan’s vision for Corporate America 2050? Obama/Biden 2012!?!?
Lol, typical. “We don’t have a plan, we just don’t like yours”……. Do you think most Americans will embrace people without a vision towards the future?.
OBAMA 2012 not WALL STREET 2012!
Didn’t Obama get most of his campaign money from Wall Street?
Yes, the first time around, they financed him. This time, after seeing how clueless Obama is, they’re sending more to Romney than Obama. Though, Obama is still getting a significant amount of money from Wall Street.
Tell that to Obama and Holder – who just gave Goldman Sachs a free pass!
Vote out Wall Street in 2012! Vote out Obama!
BTW – are you now calling me a “denier”. Perhaps suggesting that I didn’t do my own research merely poked holes in the Ryan plan?
I’m suggesting that the left, like you, Obama, and the rest simply refuse to acknowledge the debt crisis which is looming in the U.S. I think most Americans realize it is a huge problem. Pretending that it isn’t won’t play well with the public.
If you did your research – you’d present it…as usually you don’t.
Actually, no. Just ignorant. A good sheep. But very ignorant (But then I guess I repeat myself).
You’re kidding right? Obama is in the pockets of wall street.
Not Wall Street 2012? Huh, funny. Obama used appointed the same people to “watch over” Wall Street that Bush had. How dumb are you dude!
Yeah, rah, rah, rah, Obama 2012, can’t you see it now!
The PhD,
You are nothing but a propaganda clone.
Who are you anyway?
Haha I tell the truth, not like you Fox News Loons here. It’s like you all live in Glenn Beck’s mouth spewing the lies of the far right!
You’re mindless.
Bloviating rambling?
You have yet to tell the truth. You love lying about everything. I have yet to see a single sourced fact go to Fox. Yet because you can do nothing except lie, you always bring them up.
Same with Beck. And of course your penchant for childish ad hominems and school yard taunts. Added to your complete ignorance of anything economic, and you have yet to state a SINGLE fact. Just your typical insults with no rationale or reason.
Nope the mindless would be you nutters!
At least make some sense. You say Obama not Wall Street. Nothing between Wall Street and the White House has changed since Obama has been President. If anything it is worse. You are mindless.
Haha! What happened when Democrats tried to empower the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau to actually do something – or give it a strong leader like Elizabeth Warren? The baggers were out in full force protecting the interests of their Wall Street overlords.
You’re nuts
No, once again your logic fails you.
If we are “nutters”, as you say, why would you disagree so adamantly?
Don’t they have logic 101, OR logic for idiots, at your University?
Sis boom bah, look at Obama! ThePropagDaclone is one of his cheerleaders. Go team Go!
But even the losing team needs cheerleaders.
Ph, what does Warren know about finances? Why on earth would someone like her be placed in such a position?
I had been overestimating the intelligence of ThePhD. I have lowered my standards and now who he is is becoming clearer.
Again ThePhD, who are you?
He likes Warren – “cause she claimed Cherokee.
She doesn’t have much going for her if she needs to attempt a claim at minority status.
Ya, it’s bizarre that he’d bring up Elizabeth Warren. He’s either a complete idiot or he’s working on a comedy act.
Wow you’re all really stupid if you believe any of that drivel. Clearly the finance industry was shaking in their boots from Dr. Warren or they wouldn’t have spent millions of dollars trying to keep her out of that post!
Haha I can’t wait for election day. When Obama wins how many baggers are moving to Canada!?! I mean at least their you have your freedoms in health care, right!?!? lol
Yeah, man o man, Obama was such a hard driver to reform Wall Street. Everything is so different now. That Hope and Change was a reality! Wall Street was reeling. They’re still shaking! Obama—he’s our man.
4 more years!
4 more years!
Says the economically ignorant. Even a first semester econ student knows the difference between revenue and profit.
Sorry, preventing the government from transferring wealth is NOT transferring wealth. Ryan’s budget would do nothing of what the democrats said it would. It was targeted. What it is doing (which is not even radical) is cutting INCREASES, not cutting the baseline.
Economics 101. And I thought you could not get more ignorant. Silly me.
Timothy Geithner has a precarious high wire act to perform. He is the public face, the PR man, for a group of very greedy men. His work is to smooth over the evil image that group rightfully has. His work is not to be responsible with money.
And he wanted to run away already.
And he knew of the “Crime Of The Century” and found it all hunky dory. (The Libor fixing)
No doubt. He’s been Treasury sec. for 3 1/2 yrs and said nothing about it until the press in Europe broke the story.
“His administration [ Obama ] and Congress sought to transform a free-enterprise society into a government-centered society. That meant a vastly expanded role for the federal government, higher spending to support that role, with higher taxes and debt to pay for his entitlement programs.
His party’s congressional leaders squandered hundreds of billions of dollars aimed to jump-start the economy and keep unemployment from rising above 8 percent. Unemployment rose above 10 percent and has remained above 8 percent for more than 40 straight months.
Instead of focusing on getting the economy back on track, the president and the last Congress enacted a government-driven health care program. They spent 16 months pursuing this disastrous law, ramming it through on a party-line vote despite warning after warning that Americans rejected his misguided plan.
Rather than address Wall Street’s financial accountability issue, the president and his Congress continued to funnel billions of dollars to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and enacted the Dodd-Frank law giving protection and preferential treatment to big banks and more power to regulators who failed in the last crisis.
In 2005, Sen. Obama and other Democratic members stopped the Senate from considering legislation that would have empowered a regulator to crack down on these ‘Government-Sponsored Enterprises,’ and control their buildup of risky assets. That legislation might have eased or prevented the home mortgage meltdown that led to the financial panic three years later. Instead, Fannie and Freddie’s executives were enriched, the taxpayer got stuck with a bill of more than $300 billion to bail them out, while millions of Americans lost their homes in ensuing financial crisis.
The crony capitalist approach is a failure: economic growth and job creation remain anemic. Unprecedented numbers of Americans have stopped looking for work. Real GDP crept up just 1.7 percent in 2011, and 1.9 percent in the 1st quarter of 2012 — well below private-sector forecasts for this year, the 3 percent historical trend rate of U.S. growth, and a fraction of the pace in a typical recovery.
The government’s fiscal position has sharply deteriorated during President Obama’s term. In three and a half years, debt held by the public grew by about $4.5 trillion — a 70 percent increase. Instead of the promised 50 percent reduction, this year’s deficit is expected to come in at $1.2 trillion. This failure may be the President’s most consequential broken promise. Our debt is projected to spiral out of control in the years ahead. This is paralyzing economic growth. Investors, businesses and families fear that the coming debt crisis portends a diminished American future.
Americans aspire to control our own destiny and remain free from foreign powers who would impose limits on our dreams for ourselves and our children. If our generation fails to meet this
challenge, America will surrender her independence to an army of foreign creditors who already own roughly half of our public debt. The policies in place today guarantee that outcome, unless we change course soon.?”
http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/Ryan-plan-save-America/2012/08/11/id/448245
Haha! Thank you Ryan for saving America by turning it over to Wall Street. Great idea!
No, taking it back from Wall street – which Obama gave to them.
You love making a fool of yourself.
Ph, do you know where Tim Geithner came from?
Tim Geithner is affiliated with Goldman Sachs just like all other appointees in the government who “watch over” Wall Street.
Did you know that ThePhD?
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And ‘Hope and Change’ meant what?
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ThePhDScientist
Do you see I am asking you about Timothy Geithner and Barack Obama?
Timothy ‘Hope and Change’ Geithner?
Is that your story ThePhD?
There were big changes brought to Wall Street with Barack Obama’s appointees? He got tough? He cracked down? It’s all ‘Change’ now?
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Hello…… is this thing on?
Lol, I don’t think Ph wants to talk about Timmy anymore.
His shift is over. He earned his 3.50 USD.
Snicker
Oh ok Suyts, boy you really got me! So you just got done saying Elizabeth Warren, who was an attorney and faculty member at Harvard University, studying bankruptcy and commercial law, had absolutely no credentials to run the CFPB. Now you’re accusing the Obama administration of stacking themselves with Wall Street folks (I’m very well aware of Geithner’s past, thank you!)
You see, no matter what Obama does he won’t win because you’re an ideologue set in your incorrect ways.
That I point out dichotomous positions of the left and correct errant beliefs about Obama, I’m ideologue?
Bankruptcy law qualifies a person to head the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau? I’d much rather have someone who understands finances and business, than an ideological Marxist.
No, what the facts state is that Warren woudl not be at Harvard if she had not presented herself as a minority. So Harvard has dumbed down its faculty. The proof is in the pudding. Just eat your pow wow chow and swallow the lies you are fed.
ThePhDScientist……… ThePhDScientist……… ThePhDScientist………
It’s cute though that he pretends to “save America” while gutting every program aimed at the poor, middle class, and seniors and turning those over to Romney’s buddies on Wall Street.
This was clearly a desperate move by the Romney campaign. They must of looked at the electoral map and thought we really need to take the risk if we hope for any shot in hell of winning this thing. Get ready for Palin 2.0!!!
He doesn’t “gut” them, he makes them to where they’re solvent for future Americans.
Guts them and turns them over to Wall Street as voucher programs.
Reference please -
ThePhD
the only thing that is gutted is your common sense, and conscience.
So, you think we should just ride those horses down to bankruptcy?
Of course he does – Think of all the Government funding in Universities.
But bankruptcy is very good for the bankers at the very top of the system. Bankruptcy, astronomical debt, money printing—these are the things they WANT.
I think there are lots of ways to fix them that don’t involve turning them over to Wall Street bankers to gamble with!
Haha Kim2000 – i’m sure you don’t have the foggiest idea about basic science research. Or what a great government investment it really is. The multiplier effect is MUCH great than tax cuts!
I agree, but they have to come to the table to talk about it. Sitting in the galley crying about how mean Ryan’s plan is doesn’t solve anything. …. plus, the characterization of “turning it over to Wall Street bankers” is a bit of a misnomer.
Haha now you’re accusing me of “misnomers”. A bit of the pot calling the kettle?
Haha Kim2000 – i’m sure you don’t have the foggiest idea about basic science research.
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Ha ha ha ha… I’m not the one trying to pass off Post-normal Science [ Pseudoscience ] as Normal Science.
Hahaha oh Kim2000 another self-proclaimed expert. Let’s see the publication record? Faculty position?
This is all you really are ThePhD? You’re sitting in front of a computer on a Saturday giving out the party line?? Really, that’s all you are?
ThePhDScientist says:
August 11, 2012 at 1:35 pm
Hahaha oh Kim2000 another self-proclaimed expert. Let’s see the publication record? Faculty position?
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Ha ha ha ha…You are too easy.
I have the VERY same degree in Climatology as James Hansen, M. Mann, P Jones, Briffa, Muller ……….
Argumentum ad verecundiam, which you do often is a fallacy in logic. http://nizkor.org/features/fallacies/ <—- Learn about your fallacies .
Oh great let’s see how your publication record stacks up agains M. Mann!??!! I’ve got subscriptions here to all the top science journals, where should I start looking for your work? Science? Nature?
ThePhDScientist says:
August 11, 2012 at 1:53 pm
Oh great let’s see how your publication record stacks up agains M. Mann!??!! I’ve got subscriptions here to all the top science journals, where should I start looking for your work? Science? Nature?
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Awwwwwwwww You didn’t read the link that I provided you for help about fallacies.
It’s not how much you publish – It’s how your claims, supporting your hypothesis – are matched with observational empirical evidence. Since M Mann refuses to produce Observational empirical evidence to support his hypothesis…AND in FACT observational empirical evidence…shows ,divergencesFROM that hypothesis….leaving ALL his papers questionable at the least.
I thought you are supposed to be a scientist.
ThePhDScientist says:
August 11, 2012 at 1:35 pm
“Hahaha oh Kim2000 another self-proclaimed expert. Let’s see the publication record? Faculty position?”
That’s a little rich from a guy who gets everything wrong and never has data to back up his claims.
I don’t care whether you call yourself a PhdScientist; I still think you’re an Obama campaign practicant.
Palin 2.0?
Man, I hope that means she’ll be in a bikini!
That was always the problem though wasn’t it? No one could ever figure out how to just mute her and let her stand quietly at the arm of McCain..??
OMG! You really are mindless! It’s true! It’s really true!
Haha oh wait, you’re right she was good for the McCain campaign!!?!??? LOL
You are sounding disconnected from reality.
Cutting the rate of increase is not gutting. This is not the beltway, so stop your lying. IN other words, show a SINGLE cut proposed to a SINGLE program. Not a cut in growth – a cut from current spending levels.
Here’s a quick rundown of the latest Ryan plan:
For seniors who are now in Medicare, nothing changes. They can stay with the traditional program as it is.
Beginning in 2023, 65-year-olds would have their choice of insurance plans — private and traditional — on a new Medicare exchange. A premium-support payment, like a subsidy, would be sent to the plan of their choice.
If the chosen plan costs more than the premium-support, the senior would pay the difference.
The Medicare eligibility age would be slowly raised to 67 by 2034.
All plans on the Medicare exchange would offer a base level of benefits, and they would be regulated by the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services.
The premium-support payments would be tied to the second-cheapest plan, which can’t grow more than gross domestic product plus 0.5 percentage points. If the cost does grow faster, Congress would be required to step in and take some action to keep costs down.
http://www.factcheck.org/2012/07/no-end-to-end-medicare-claim/
Already read it…What happens to retired seniors at 65?
If the cost does grow faster, Congress would be required to step in and take some action to keep costs down.
LOL And I imagine you personally trust Congress to step in and “take some action” to keep your premiums and associated health care costs from spiraling out of control? I mean they’ve done such a good job of it the past 30 years!
What happens when there is no money left? Retiring seniors of today are the first that will not get out of SS what they put in. Why? SSDI. The poor souls that paid nothing and are draining it dry.
So you have 2 choices. Do nothing (your solution) and no one gets anything. Reform – and let everyone get something. YOu want to cut it to EVERYONE, and not by just a little.
You are so compassionate (must be your racism coming through).
And that’s different from today, how exactly? It makes Medicare sustainable for the next 20 years while containing costs. It offers both a public and private plans. It gives seniors choices. These are bad things?
So we give Republicans what they always want a way to privatize all health insurance in the country and you think they are going to keep funding traditional medicare? Keep running duel programs? LOL You’re so trusting of the baggers and so distrustful of Obama. Interesting, very interesting!
distrustful of Obama. Interesting, very interesting!
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Do we have reason to distrust Mr Obama…a person of reason would say given the lies he DIDN’T need to make – yes.
FACT OR OBAMA’S LIES:
Hussein Onyango, Barack’s grandfather, was imprisoned and tortured by the British?
The father of his Indonesian stepfather, Soewarno Martodihardjo, was killed by Dutch soldiers in the fight for independence?
Regina, a friend at Occidental who Obama writes about as a symbol of the authentic African-American experience was indeed, African-American?
Obama’s father left his mother?
Reference; “Dreams from my Father”.
PhdScientist, it’s 2012. The information is all over the internet. Your games don’t work.
Tell me about Obama’s college records. Was he a foreign exchange student? What, you don’t know? Why not?
Hahaha I have to tell you guys I do love conspiracy theories. Well not so much that I love conspiracy theories but I’m fascinated by the people who put them forward. You know “global warming” is all one big manufactured lie! Everyone in the whole system is in it to get us. It’s all corrupted! Obama is a muslim! He was born in Kenya.
The funny thing is conspiracy theories speak volumes more about the people promoting them than they do about the subjects of the conspiracy!
Ph, I’m sure you recall a law being passed we commonly know as Obamacare. You realize this forces our health care to private insurance companies already. The argument is moot.
OH so medicare is now forced into private insurance companies under Obamacare? News to me…. I think you’re moot.
I didn’t say medicare. But, what it does do is forces the rest of entire country into private insurance other than medicare. How is it that you think its right for most of the country but wrong for the future elderly? Who, would have been forced onto private insurance already via Obamacare?
What happens to retired seniors at 65?
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Depends on what year you’re referring to. Present day seniors at 65, pretty much nothing happens to them.
Being one of those who will become a senior facing this dilemma, I am far more comfortable with Ryan’s plan. Obama hasn’t passed a budget in his entire term and I’m supposed to believe he has my retirement figured out? If Obama can’t manage the present by even proposing a workable budget which reigns in spending as he promised as candidate Obama, I have no reason to believe he has a clue on how to manage the future finances of our country.
No doubt. At least its a plan to operate from. What’s Obama’s plan? His plan consists of blaming Romney for some ladies cancer death.
Oh, there is a plan. It’s just he isn’t willing to expose it until 2013. Unfortunately, I already know what’s in it, at least for the small business owner. Over 22 new taxes or tax increases, new government fees and penalties, and, on top of all that the obamacare employer mandate tax hits in 2014.
And liberals are really gullible enough to believe he’s not raising taxes on the middle income and poor. Indirectly he is and he knows it. When small businesses get hit with the massive tax hikes in 2013 and 2014 (that are already in the pipeline) the lower and middle income will pay for them through lower pay, reduction or loss of corporate benefits, lower retirement savings, higher cost of living, and fewer jobs.
The poor and middle income will pay a disproportionate share of the cost of his reckless and out of control government spending.
Right, they can’t see beyond trying to punish the successful.
“The poor and middle income will pay a disproportionate share of the cost of his reckless and out of control government spending.”
Disappointment from the left with Obama and Wall Street:
An interview with two men that loved Barack Obama and were high on him. But his connections to Wall Street have completely turned them off to him:
in 3 parts
The guy on the right in the video thumbnail is Bobby Kennedy’s son.
Bobby Kennedy, i.e., RFK.
And this is one of the reasons why Obama loses this election. He’s been shown to be dichotomous in regards to what he advocates and what his actions belie.
There will be a lot of people on the left sitting at home watching the election and not voting.
Exactly. Why would they vote? The promises which swept him in were utterly ignored. In some parts, I’m very glad, but it has to be demoralizing for many of the hard left.
Interesting video with former NYT journalist and author of “The Amateur: Barack Obama in the White House”. He also says some people from the left are disappointed with Obama and will just stay home on election day:
James
you could be right, Romney in a landslide.
Yeh, I don’t think it will be as close as Bush’s
That was interesting AAIM, but I don’t put much into it. False hopes is can be a let down, I hope I am wrong and you’re right here.
Haha sounds like a lot of wishful thinking from the righties huh? We already know why Romney picked Ryan – campaign knows things are looking terrible. Romney being hammered on his business record and can’t even release his tax returns. Why? Probably paid less percent income tax than the poorest Americans (yeah zero! lol) Obama leading in all the swing states. Electoral map not looking favorable when you can only win the Southern states and not places where people actually live
. Remember most Americans aren’t bible belt ideologues like the posters here.
BTW It’s the baggers and Paul Ryan who’ve got the left even more riled up and ready to turn out in droves to keep Wall Street out of the oval office!
As mentioned before, it’s going to be very difficult for the left to pretend Obama is against Wall Street. I don’t think you understand the advocacy of the people here and/or Ryan and/or the TEA party.
But, if the OWS movement is indicative of the response, then ….. well, HAHAHAHa!!!
Ph, the slight bump Obama got was from the Olympics. He’s not ahead in all swing states. Rasmussen has Romney up or dead even in Col. Iowa, Florida, and N.C…..lol, where the Dems are having their convention. Likely the Ryan pick will swing Wisconsin. Romney is down by 2 points in Ohio and 1 in Virginia.
Americans of all persuasions vote with their wallet. It’s funny how you characterize the readers here.
At least make an effort to not be rude ThePhD
You must be a comedian ThePhD. Yeah, Obama sure has kept Wall Street out of the White House.
Yeah, rich whitey Romney will croney with Wall Street. How Marxist of you to say.
On one hand, PhdScientist is amusing because he never backs up anything and is so foul-mouthed. On the other hand, one would like the challenge of an intelligent troll. But they’re probably in short supply.
Maybe you can talk Tony out of lurking?
Ha ha ha ha
PhD (Piled Higher and Deeper), I can’t imagine a real PhD scientist having the views that you espouse. I think that you are just a phony with an inferiority complex. You have permission to go to the back of the room and continue picking your nose.
Well pHDouche said he knows a couple good psychiatrists and he projected his obsession with his stupidity on Me a little while ago! LMAO!
I can not imagine any educated person using as many fallacies in logic.
I can, there are too many examples of it! Most you should already know of.
Here is one.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/03/10/mcintyre-on-gleicks-water-gate/
Dick Morris, “The man who made Clinton”, thinks too it will be Romney in a landslide. He says Obama knows he’s way behind and all he can do is talk about anything BUT the economy. And he’s throwing hail Mary passes to his base trying to get them back out to vote for him:
Dick Morris, for all of his faults, has an astute political mind.
I dont really think he’s that bad a guy. I actually respect him. His was amazingly right in his predictions in 2008. I was amazed. No one was as close to what really happened as him, not even Gallup.
Well, I respect his astute political knowledge, but, as you mentioned, he built the facade we call Bill Clinton.
I seem to remember Dick Morris saying McCain would win in 2008. I’ve seen several of his predictions turn out wrong by exactly 180 degrees. In other words, they went the opposite way.
Jim
Right, well, there’s lots that can happen between now and then. Predictions at this point are about as valid as predicting the minimum arctic ice extent for this year.
I think about Wednesday or Thursday, depending on the press cycle, we’ll get to test my “Olympic” posit.
Jim Masterson
At what point in the campaign did he say McCain would win?
October 29, plus or minus. See http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/10/undecideds_should_break_for_mc.html
Jim
He says this in that article:
“But don’t write Obama off. His candidacy strikes such enthusiasm among young and minority voters that there is still a chance that a massive turnout will deliver the race to the Democrats.”
He was right.
And he doesn’t definitively say McCain in the article. There’s nothing definitive in the article.
Actually, I heard him make the prediction on a radio interview. I don’t know the exact date, but it was before the election. Predictions after the election don’t require much effort.
Jim
Also, his predictions I was talking about were for senate and house elections. He was very close to getting everything right, even percentages of votes.
The article you linked was before the election. What were the predictions after the election you are talking about?
October 29, 2008 is the date on the article. He said Obama was causing an excitement that could make him win. He was right.
It was meant to be humorous. I failed obviously.
Jim
The writing style in the article seems to be showing he was talking to conservatives on the right. They are his new followers and are the ones that, for the most part, buy his books. I think him saying, “But don’t write Obama off.” was his way of easing that audience into the idea Obama was going to win.
Oh, I didn’t catch that Jim. Sorry.
1) Predictions after the fact are pointless–that was the intended joke.
2) The link was just an example. Morris thought the independents would break for McCain.
3) Morris was more certain in the radio interview that I heard. He may give thousands of predictions where he’s 99% right, but the few that mattered to me were 100% wrong.
4) My usual take on experts is that they can be as wrong as the rest of us.
The future ain’t what it used to be. –Yogi Berra
Jim
I don’t see any predictions after the fact. The article at the link doesn’t say McCain will win. I think the article was written to conservatives who he knew really didn’t want Obama to win. I didn’t hear the radio show you talk about.
Maybe you should look at the things he called right and how he is uncanny in his accuracy most of the time. Like you said no one can be right all of the time.
“Never make predictions, especially about the future.”
~Yogi Berra
So predictions after the fact don’t strike you as ludicrous? (Which has nothing to do with the current topic.)
There’s much ado about nothing here. I don’t trust his predictions. I also don’t care about predictions that I don’t care about.
Jim
Sure, predictions after the fact are silly. But I’m just asking what are the predictions he made after the fact. I keep asking that.
You’re in a feedback loop. Re-read my comment made at 11:52 AM (blog time). I never said Morris made a prediction after-the-fact.
Jim
I know what that comment said. Why did you associate that with him? I don’t get the connection. Or was there no connection even thought they are said in the same paragraph?
Good grief! It was a statement of fact. Maybe I should have said, “Hindsight is 20-20.”
The first sentence in a paragraph is the topic sentence. The remaining sentences support the topic sentence. I didn’t see a need to make a new paragraph.
Jim
We are talking about two different things, no? Let’s just leave it at that.
“Que Sera Sera.”
I prefer the French phrase: “C’est la guerre.”
Actually, I know more Latin than French (which isn’t saying much).
“MORITURI TE SALUTEMUS” –which is what the gladiators said to the emperor before doing battle: “We who are about to die salute you.”
Jim
Oops, I misspelled SALUTAMUS. After all these years of thinking salute was in the second conjugation, it’s actually in the first. Well, you learn something new every day.
Jim
And he started saying Obama will lose in a landslide a year ago:
Unbelievably, Obama is behind in Minnesota and New Mexico. He thinks Romney could possibly bet 350 electoral votes:
If Morris is right, and assuming nothing major happens in the interim, then I’ve got Romney at 352.
That seems like too much though. If that does happen it will send a signal so loud to socialists that they would run and hide for years. There would be immediate talk of cutting taxes and spending coming from politicians.
I just have trouble believing that much of a pounding would happen.
Insiders are saying Obama hates Romney more than Palin? No wonder he’s getting so detached from reality in his attacks on Romney. His hatred and anger are causing him to be irrational.
And that’s the fascinating part of all of this. The Republicans picked the mildest mannered of the candidates. A moderate.
Can you imagine what sort of vile vitriol we’d see if the Repubs ran an ideologue?
Maybe his hatred and anger toward Romney is really displaced hatred and anger at himself because he doesn’t have a clue how to be a better leader and everything he thought was right is turning out all wrong. Maybe the man with the Messiah complex can’t perform like the Messiah he thought he was and he is hating it, hating finding out he’s just a human.
Worried about Mr Romney releasing his tax papers?
Maybe, Mr Obama needs to worry about HS TEAM and Administrators paying their taxes?
["The IRS has released its Federal Employee and Retiree Delinquency Inventory, and it shows that 36 of Obama’s aides owe a total of $833,970 in back taxes.
Other government employees owe a lot, too. At the Environmental Protection Agency, 413 people owe more than $19 million; at the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp., which is supposed to “maintain stability and public confidence in the nation’s financial system,” 185 employees owe more than $3 million; and five people at the U.S. Tax Court owe $62,508."]
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/01/obamas-aides-owe-some-money-in-back-taxes/